Off Topic Politics Thread

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St Badger said:
Anyone else keeping an eye on the potential war between Russia and the Ukraine?
Most of the world seems to be sitting back and monitoring the situation and with Ukraine not belonging to NATO, there is no obligation for NATO to get over involved.
The UK, meanwhile, has been supplying Ukraine with anti tank weapons and troops to train the Ukrainians in their use. It’s almost as if we want to be part of anything that might kick off there.
Maybe Johnson is looking for another distraction, even if it does put British lives at risk.
Here’s a link to the views of some people who know more about these things than I do.

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blo...tary-move-against-ukraine-follow-these-clues/
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From what I can gather so far it looks like the US and NATO wouldn’t put troops on the ground, but would supply arms to Ukraine and cut all diplomatic and financial ties to Russia. I say this with very little understanding though, just my take on the news.

How all of Europe would handle the accompanying gas shortage though I have no idea.

Would have thought there would be one hell of a mass deployment to all Ukraine, Belarus and Russian borders though which we would probably be very involved in.
 
St Badger said:
Anyone else keeping an eye on the potential war between Russia and the Ukraine?
Most of the world seems to be sitting back and monitoring the situation and with Ukraine not belonging to NATO, there is no obligation for NATO to get over involved.
The UK, meanwhile, has been supplying Ukraine with anti tank weapons and troops to train the Ukrainians in their use. It’s almost as if we want to be part of anything that might kick off there.
Maybe Johnson is looking for another distraction, even if it does put British lives at risk.
Here’s a link to the views of some people who know more about these things than I do.

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blo...tary-move-against-ukraine-follow-these-clues/
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Sitting back and letting Russia continue its slow imperial expansion wouldn't be a great move either...
 
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I agree with loading - I think though that far from BJ trying to use it as a distraction the govt are trying to sit back and not get dragged in too much to it. They have given short range weapons for defence, that is all.

We'll see how it pans out, but the world is a safer place now that the orange one isn't in charge in the US.
 
thereisonlyoneno7 said:
I agree with loading - I think though that far from BJ trying to use it as a distraction the govt are trying to sit back and not get dragged in too much to it. They have given short range weapons for defence, that is all.

We'll see how it pans out, but the world is a safer place now that the orange one isn't in charge in the US.
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Well with the orange one we would have known what the US would have done - absolutely nothing

Russia would have known it to. I guess they aren’t completely sure what they will do right now
 
thereisonlyoneno7 said:
I agree with loading - I think though that far from BJ trying to use it as a distraction the govt are trying to sit back and not get dragged in too much to it. They have given short range weapons for defence, that is all.

We'll see how it pans out, but the world is a safer place now that the orange one isn't in charge in the US.
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But we are getting dragged in, unilaterally.
France and Germany are staying well clear of it. America have had talks.
It just makes me think that Johnson is looking for a way to distract from his problems, now including an Islamophobia claim, whilst trying to look strong, internationally.
History tells us that UK PMs like a bit of blood and thunder to boost their ratings.
Thatcher and the Falklands.
Blair and Iraq and Afghanistan. Backfired on him.
Cameron bombed Libya
May bombed Syria
Tends to get the juices of the flag shaggers flowing.
If not for the islamophobia claim, the news bulletin, I have just watched, would have led with the Ukraine/Russia issue, yet not a single word about the motorway blockages in Kent.
 
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St Badger said:
But we are getting dragged in, unilaterally.
France and Germany are staying well clear of it. America have had talks.
It just makes me think that Johnson is looking for a way to distract from his problems, now including an Islamophobia claim, whilst trying to look strong, internationally.
History tells us that UK PMs like a bit of blood and thunder to boost their ratings.
Thatcher and the Falklands.
Blair and Iraq and Afghanistan. Backfired on him.
Cameron bombed Libya
May bombed Syria
Tends to get the juices of the flag shaggers flowing.
If not for the islamophobia claim, the news bulletin, I have just watched, would have led with the Ukraine/Russia issue, yet not a single word about the motorway blockages in Kent.
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There is a big big difference between Russia and all those countries you mentioned in context of other PMs. I assume you know what it is?
 
saintrichie123 said:
Boris could be gone by the end of the week then(thank ****)
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It absolutely beggars belief that Sue Gray is questioning the police over this, but that the police themselves are completely uninterested in conducting any investigation, when they were happy to hand out huge fines to members of the public for similar activities.
 
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ChilcoSaint said:
It absolutely beggars belief that Sue Gray is questioning the police over this, but that the police themselves are completely uninterested in conducting any investigation, when they were happy to hand out huge fines to members of the public for similar activities.
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Or were they instructed not to investigate?
Wouldn’t surprise me.
 
ChilcoSaint said:
They were instructed by Cressida Dick, who wants a damehood more than she wants to investigate crime.
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Thats Baroness Sir Dame Cressida Dick MBE CBE OBE BTEC to us plebs.

I agree it’s amazing how Police can give ‘damning evidence’ to a political enquiry, when the MET couldn’t investigate due to ‘lack of evidence’.

They’ll have to create some new honours at this rate.
 
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