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Mike Pompeo saying that Iran is now the base for Al-Quaeda.

That’s Shia Iran, the base for Sunni/Wahhabi Al-Qaeda?

A war between Shia and Sunni has been going on since 632 AD, a millennia before modern America existed. It’s an utterly absurd claim.

Worth keeping an eye that the orange menace doesn’t start something in this final week...
 
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Saints_Alive said:
I saw an interview with Desperate Don on BBC's Hard Talk from the 90s recently and he was basically saying that he is motivated by revenge and that he always finds a way of hurting people that cross him, how he ever was allowed to become the leader of the "free World" i'll never know.
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That’s narcissists for you...
 
Mitch McConnell, leader of the senate, saying he believes Trump has committed impeachable acts and that he will not be placing a whip on the impeachment vote.

Meanwhile senior Republican senators Kizinger and Cheney (#3 Republican in seniority) are both declaring they will vote to remove Trump from office and impeach.
 
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Mitch McConnell, leader of the senate, saying he believes Trump has committed impeachable acts and that he will not be placing a whip on the impeachment vote.

Meanwhile senior Republican senators Kizinger and Cheney (#3 Republican in seniority) are both declaring they will vote to remove Trump from office and impeach.
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CNN are reporting that as many as 20 House Republicans could support the impeachment resolution tomorrow. The pressure would then be on McConnell to cooperate with the Dems and reconvene the Senate before they are due back on the 19th.
 
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CNN are reporting that as many as 20 House Republicans could support the impeachment resolution tomorrow. The pressure would then be on McConnell to cooperate with the Dems and reconvene the Senate before they are due back on the 19th.
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Worth noting that it's assumed that they can continue with impeachment even after Trump's term ends. There's some disagreement on that point -- one official, Secretary of War William Belknap, was impeached by the House but not convicted after he resigned -- but because the Constitution gives the Senate basically unfettered power to determine how impeachment plays out, I can't see a reason why the courts would prevent them from doing so, particularly when there's a very real punishment (the disqualification from ever holding public office) to apply to even a former president.

Is it funnier if they convict Trump on the 19th or something, and Mike Pence ends up president for a day? Absolutely. And thus that's my preference.
 
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Schad said:
Worth noting that it's assumed that they can continue with impeachment even after Trump's term ends. There's some disagreement on that point -- one official, Secretary of War William Belknap, was impeached by the House but not convicted after he resigned -- but because the Constitution gives the Senate basically unfettered power to determine how impeachment plays out, I can't see a reason why the courts would prevent them from doing so, particularly when there's a very real punishment (the disqualification from ever holding public office) to apply to even a former president.

Is it funnier if they convict Trump on the 19th or something, and Mike Pence ends up president for a day? Absolutely. And thus that's my preference.
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One day of President Pence? May as well.

[HASHTAG]#OnePence[/HASHTAG]
 
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6 House Republicans refused to put masks on during the siege of the Capitol last week, despite being offered them. Now 3 Democrat Congressmen have tested positive, despite being negative prior to the siege.
 
I see The Pentagon have to release thousands of documents and videos of previously classified material on "UFOs". Hopefully this will get some idiots back into harmless conspiracies.
 
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In PMQs Johnson said that free school meals were a Conservative initiative.

The Lib Dem’s brought it in through the coalition.

Just another lie to chalk off.

Note: Had it slightly wrong but sentiment is the same. Thatcher slashed free meal eligibility and it stayed at that level until the Lib Dem’s significantly expanded the eligibility.
 
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I don’t know how reliable Tortoisemedia.com is, but found this claim that Mike Pompeo is leaving “political land mines” to disrupt Biden’s start as the next POTUS.

“Scorched earth. In Taiwan, Yemen, Cuba and Iran, the outgoing US administration is leaving political landmines for Team Biden in what David Miliband, the former UK foreign secretary, has called “pure diplomatic vandalism”. The man behind this is Mike Pompeo, the outgoing secretary of state; his aim apparently to make Biden look weak as he restores some common sense to US foreign policy. Looking ahead, there’s another thing: Pompeo wants to be president.

In chronological order:

  • Taiwan. On Saturday Pompeo lifted restrictions on formal contacts between US and Taiwanese officials that have been in place for 41 years. Ostensibly this underlines the Trump administration’s firm support for Taiwan and its democracy in the face of Chinese intimidation. It also hands Pompeo’s successor, Tony Blinken, a diplomatic emergency on day one in his new job. Nothing causes more acute neuralgia in Beijing than recognition for an island it claims as its own.
  • Yemen. On Sunday Pompeo said he planned to designate Yemen’s Houthi rebels a foreign terrorist organisation. In principle this will make it illegal under US law to move food through the crucial Houthi-controlled port of Hodeidah from 19 January. The designation allows waivers for aid agencies that help feed 80 per cent of Yemenis, but in practice there’s no way to police it or the waivers – which would only protect US government employees and entities anyway. Pompeo’s main aim is to make it as hard as possible for Blinken to resume talks with Iran, which supports the Houthis. More than 100,000 have died in Yemen’s civil war and famine is forecast for 2021. Iona Craig, an expert on the region, says the impact of the designation is going to be felt by civilians rather than the Houthis.
  • Cuba. On Monday Pompeo added Cuba to the US list of state sponsors of terrorism, principally to reverse a key element of Obama’s rapprochement with Havana before it’s too late. There’s zero evidence of Cuba sponsoring terrorism over the past four years, which is why Senator Patrick Leahy, a Democrat, called this a “blatantly politicised designation”. Pompeo will certainly remind Cuban-Americans of his brave stand on their behalf when he wades into his first presidential primary.
  • Iran. On Tuesday Pompeo said Iran was a new “home base” for al-Qaeda. Again, zero evidence. And again, the purpose seems to be to derail the Biden administration’s efforts to patch Obama’s Iran deal back together before they’ve even begun. Team Trump’s Iran strategy of “maximum pressure” is working, Pompeo insisted in a tweet. Washington’s abiding fear is that this strategy might culminate in military action ordered by an unhinged commander-in-chief.
Question for the post-mortem: what role in all this did the soon-to-be-ex First Son-in-law Jared Kushner have? Everything that hurts Iran helps Saudi Arabia, where he’s been cultivating ties with the Crown Prince – despite the murder of Jamal Khashoggi, the jailing of Loujain al-Hathloul and so much else – for most of the past four years.”
 
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