Off Topic Politics Thread

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What do we think of the chances of a Blair-type politician getting elected today. My gut feeling is that he/she would be elected in a heartbeat. We want a left of centre politician with Blair's communication skills and speed of thought. End of the present iteration of the Conservative Party, as politics would return to the centre, and Brexit would be waved away as a silly error which the UK will have overcome.

Personally, I would be slightly left politically of this left-of-centre politician, but I realise that people need to find support to be elected. Such a politician would do so, and I could handle the odd policy that I wouldn't agree with, against the very many I would support.
Unfortunately, Chuka has made his home elsewhere.
 
I'm being told by my in the know friends in Europe.....That the latest proposal from Boris has actually got some merit to it........I haven't looked at the details personally but is this the general feeling Is it a decent compromise............? They are also of the opinion he just might pull something out of the hat. How would you guys feel if he were to do that??

If it’s a rabbit, I’m not interested.

Come on Beddy, how can we possibly comment on “something being pulled out of the hat?”
 
pedantic sod..........you know what I meant.........<doh>

Not really and I’m not being pedantic. You’ve asked how we’d feel if he gets a deal, right?

What’s the deal? How on earth can I comment on a deal that I haven’t seen or no nothing about.

It feels to me that you’ll be cartwheeling down the street just because we have a deal and are getting out. It’ll have to be some mega good deal to impress me. You just seem desperate to leave.
 
Doesn’t look like he is going to get a deal as you say chances are minimal also doubtful he is going to get it through parliament anyway as you say
 
Perhaps Beddy needs to be reminded of the reality of the situation. Johnson’s main financial donor in his leadership campaign, Crispin Odey, has bet his hedge fund on Britain leaving on the 31st. Johnson has to go through the motions of trying to get a deal, but is fully prepared to leave without one. The current Tory Party simply does not care about the welfare of this nation’s people, only for the disaster capitalists who donate large wads of cash to their coffers.
 
Perhaps Beddy needs to be reminded of the reality of the situation. Johnson’s main financial donor in his leadership campaign, Crispin Odey, has bet his hedge fund on Britain leaving on the 31st. Johnson has to go through the motions of trying to get a deal, but is fully prepared to leave without one. The current Tory Party simply does not care about the welfare of this nation’s people, only for the disaster capitalists who donate large wads of cash to their coffers.

I'm well aware of the betting on the no deal............I’m not surprised about the betting but am not convinced that Boris or the Tories are going to gain the money you suggest........ let’s be clear though I’m no backer of the Tories or it’s leader. Surely the answer was to have the general election but parliament couldn’t even agree on that. It is parliament as a whole does not seem to care about the welfare of the people not just the Tories.
 
I'm well aware of the betting on the no deal............I’m not surprised about the betting but am not convinced that Boris or the Tories are going to gain the money you suggest........ let’s be clear though I’m no backer of the Tories or it’s leader. Surely the answer was to have the general election but parliament couldn’t even agree on that. It is parliament as a whole does not seem to care about the welfare of the people not just the Tories.
No election before the extension, that's been the opposition's standpoint, it's widely known. I would prefer a new referendum before an election the fraudulent referendum of 2016 has no relevance to today's horrendous reality
 
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No election before the extension, that's been the opposition's standpoint, it's widely known. I would prefer a new referendum before an election the fraudulent referendum of 2016 has no relevance to today's horrendous reality
Agree entirely with opposition parties. Any early General Election would end up being a single issue contest, with the Tories and other Brexit parties repeating and strengthening the lies that swung the referendum
 
I'm well aware of the betting on the no deal............I’m not surprised about the betting but am not convinced that Boris or the Tories are going to gain the money you suggest........ let’s be clear though I’m no backer of the Tories or it’s leader. Surely the answer was to have the general election but parliament couldn’t even agree on that. It is parliament as a whole does not seem to care about the welfare of the people not just the Tories.
Absolutely untrue. You couldn’t possibly be more wrong about Parliament Beddy. There is no majority for a no deal Brexit, which would be a disaster. At the moment the only options are leaving with no deal, or remaining, which anyone with a brain cell knows is the best option anyway.
 
The poblem with the so called "binary choice" is that it was no such thing. Those who voted Remain did, in many instances, hold their noses as they voted. However enthusiastic or otherwise a Remainer may have been they were united in telling the government not to change tack. Leave was saying Leave because ... and leaving means .... (answers on a post card please).

The Leave "vision" was not, and still isn't, an homogenous thing. The inevitable fall out of the Leave vote is to have so bored everyone that some very sensible pro-European people I know are simply "wanting it done".

We are, quite simply, ****ed. I have a very limited number of years left in this chaos, but my grandchildren have to grow up in it. Thanks, Dave. And please don't tell me that another old Etonian ****wit is going to get us out of it. Beddy, I'd love to see a "deal" if that deal is better than what we have. Otherwise the only sensible thing to do is stick with what we have.
 
I don't know anyone who voted Remain who "Just wants it done" . This is just another example of repeating a lie often enough that it gets believed. The same as the lie that the majority of people still want to leave. All the polls point to it now being around 54/46 in favour of Remain. You can be sure if it was the other way round we would be having a second referendum to settle it once and for all.