Off Topic Politics Thread

Who is Boris? Is it someone nice that we are on first name terms with?

 

Yes Ides, someone benign and trustworthy, like Tio Paco

 

Unfortunately, Chuka has made his home elsewhere.

 

Yep, the spineless Blairite twat.

 

If it’s a rabbit, I’m not interested.

Come on Beddy, how can we possibly comment on “something being pulled out of the hat?”

 

pedantic sod..........you know what I meant.........

 

Not really and I’m not being pedantic. You’ve asked how we’d feel if he gets a deal, right?

What’s the deal? How on earth can I comment on a deal that I haven’t seen or no nothing about.

It feels to me that you’ll be cartwheeling down the street just because we have a deal and are getting out. It’ll have to be some mega good deal to impress me. You just seem desperate to leave.

 

Doesn’t look like he is going to get a deal as you say chances are minimal also doubtful he is going to get it through parliament anyway as you say

 

Perhaps Beddy needs to be reminded of the reality of the situation. Johnson’s main financial donor in his leadership campaign, Crispin Odey, has bet his hedge fund on Britain leaving on the 31st. Johnson has to go through the motions of trying to get a deal, but is fully prepared to leave without one. The current Tory Party simply does not care about the welfare of this nation’s people, only for the disaster capitalists who donate large wads of cash to their coffers.

 

He hasn't taken his principles with him though...

Oh wait! He hasn't got any.

As you know, I won't be happy until Chuka is working for tescos stacking shelves and we never hear from him again.

 

Except Tesco’s would find the contents of their shelves moving around the store...

 

Over to the right?

 

I'm well aware of the betting on the no deal............I’m not surprised about the betting but am not convinced that Boris or the Tories are going to gain the money you suggest........ let’s be clear though I’m no backer of the Tories or it’s leader. Surely the answer was to have the general election but parliament couldn’t even agree on that. It is parliament as a whole does not seem to care about the welfare of the people not just the Tories.

 

No election before the extension, that's been the opposition's standpoint, it's widely known. I would prefer a new referendum before an election the fraudulent referendum of 2016 has no relevance to today's horrendous reality

 

Agree entirely with opposition parties. Any early General Election would end up being a single issue contest, with the Tories and other Brexit parties repeating and strengthening the lies that swung the referendum

 

There might not be anything to put on the shelves depending how things end up!

 

He’s been caught with his pants on fire again:

 

Absolutely untrue. You couldn’t possibly be more wrong about Parliament Beddy. There is no majority for a no deal Brexit, which would be a disaster. At the moment the only options are leaving with no deal, or remaining, which anyone with a brain cell knows is the best option anyway.

 

The poblem with the so called "binary choice" is that it was no such thing. Those who voted Remain did, in many instances, hold their noses as they voted. However enthusiastic or otherwise a Remainer may have been they were united in telling the government not to change tack. Leave was saying Leave because ... and leaving means .... (answers on a post card please).

The Leave "vision" was not, and still isn't, an homogenous thing. The inevitable fall out of the Leave vote is to have so bored everyone that some very sensible pro-European people I know are simply "wanting it done".

We are, quite simply, ****ed. I have a very limited number of years left in this chaos, but my grandchildren have to grow up in it. Thanks, Dave. And please don't tell me that another old Etonian ****wit is going to get us out of it. Beddy, I'd love to see a "deal" if that deal is better than what we have. Otherwise the only sensible thing to do is stick with what we have.

 

I don't know anyone who voted Remain who "Just wants it done" . This is just another example of repeating a lie often enough that it gets believed. The same as the lie that the majority of people still want to leave. All the polls point to it now being around 54/46 in favour of Remain. You can be sure if it was the other way round we would be having a second referendum to settle it once and for all.