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ChilcoSaint said:
Dominic Grieve is speaking on an emergency motion to obtain the full documentation on the prorogation and Operation Yellowhammer, as evidence he has been given means the Queen was misled. This is monumentally important stuff.
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Had it on audio in the background and suddenly Dominic Grieve started talking. After just a couple of minutes I realised that this was absolute dynamite, so skipped back. His judgement of his honorable friend, the PM, was spot on. Of course, the interruptions mean that the point is getting spread out and slightly watered down.
 
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Are you surprise Bercow is stepping down? He wasn't exactly neutral was he..........after all that is how he is supposed to be...........? Who's the deputy speaker won't he/she automatically get the job?
 
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VocalMinority said:
As I said, I agree with your first statement but completely disagree with the second.

Thats the most leave favouring way of voting, and doesn't solve my major issue with the first referendum. It doesn't put the agreed leave option up against remain. People still wont know what they are voting for when they choose leave over remain.

Any referendum I would support HAS to put remain against whatever option we choose to leave.

If we have to do it that way, choose the leave option first round, THEN put it against remain. Not the other way around.




There's going to be some serious arguments about this if we decide to hold a second referendum though.
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Either way works for me. Can you let Boris know for me :)
 
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Beddytare said:
Are you surprise Bercow is stepping down? He wasn't exactly neutral was he..........after all that is how he is supposed to be...........? Who's the deputy speaker won't he/she automatically get the job?
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Why do you say he wasn’t neutral? Something you read in a Tory newspaper by any chance? If you watch Bercow in action, as I do an awful lot, you would know he is the champion of the backbencher, and is always open to holding the executive branch to account. When you look at the absolute shambles the governments he has served under have been, you can see how much we need someone with the backbone he has.

The reason he has chosen to step down now are several: first, he promised his wife and family he would; second, the government were planning to break with the tradition of centuries and stand someone against him at the next election; and thirdly, the timing means that this current set of MP’s will elect one of their number to replace him, so he has avoided the uncertainty of waiting until after the general election.
 
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Beddytare said:
Are you surprise Bercow is stepping down? He wasn't exactly neutral was he..........after all that is how he is supposed to be...........? Who's the deputy speaker won't he/she automatically get the job?
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By that very comment you reveal that you don't read about all sides of information. I don't normally pass judgement on people here, but I'm afraid its rather obvious that you swallow right-wing pap. Might I suggest you change your reading ffrom Murdoch and/or Beaverbrook founded publications, and change to media with a reputation for truth and quality?
John Bercow, a former Conservative MP and former front bench government spokesman, who gave up his party affinity, has been an excellent fair speaker. A couple of years ago, because he was making the government tow the parliamentary line, the right wing media tried to smear him. It didn't take. He's still there. If you watched Parliament today, all sides of the House got up on their feet in tribute to him. The only ones who didn't were members of this government and sympathisers. Plenty of backbench Tories got up and praised him. And at the same time, passed judgement on this present administration. Bercow has been way more neutral and parliamentary than any member of any government while he's served as Speaker. They'd love to have his reputation. He's the guy who needs to stay. They need to go.
 
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