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ChilcoSaint said:
Firstly, the joint statement yesterday by opposition leaders doesn’t put a VNC top of the agenda, for that very reason. They know that if an election was forced, it wouldn’t be until after we have left the EU, because Johnson could do just that.

The opposition parties will aim to take control of HoC business so that legislation can be passed forcing Johnson to seek an extension to Article 50 instead of leaving with no deal.

The Vote of No Confidence would be a last resort, followed hopefully by a Government of National Unity, provided they can all swallow their egos and agree on a leader.
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Thank you for that. Keeping my fingers crossed that Corbyn and the opposition parties with the aid of some Tories win the day next week regarding the Brexit procedure.

Just a what if!!! Johnson instructs his MPs to stay away from the house. Can such a vote proceed if the Leader of the House is not there, nor his deputies. After all, aren´t they in control of the Parliamentary timetable?
 
The Ides of March said:
Thank you for that. Keeping my fingers crossed that Corbyn and the opposition parties with the aid of some Tories win the day next week regarding the Brexit procedure.

Just a what if!!! Johnson instructs his MPs to stay away from the house. Can such a vote proceed if the Leader of the House is not there, nor his deputies. After all, aren´t they in control of the Parliamentary timetable?
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Ha! No, there isn't a quorum in the HoC. The only MP who has to be there is the Speaker or his deputy, and you can rely on John Bercow to turn up. He has already described Johnson's move as an outrage and will be doing his best to thwart our putative dictator's plans.
 
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ChilcoSaint said:
I have just sent the following email to my (Conservative) MP. I urge all of you who believe in Parliamentary democracy to send something similar to your own MP. Johnson is engaging in a coup d’etat and it must be prevented:

“I was shocked and outraged this morning to learn that a Prime Minister with no mandate from the electorate and no majority in the House of Commons plans to suspend Parliament to pursue a no-deal Brexit, which not a single person in the UK voted for. I demand as my MP that you convey my displeasure to the Prime Minister immediately.

Thank you”
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Done
 
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ChilcoSaint said:
The Queen has consented to the proroguing of Parliament. Worth remembering that the last monarch to pull a stunt like that met a sticky end...
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Can you really blame her, though? I feel like she should just do whatever parliament asks her to do, otherwise its a monarchy. It's not her fault the UK voters are idiots.
 
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The Ides of March said:
Let´s think this through guys!!

Johnson is creating a trap for the opposition parties to fall into as soon as they return next week. They manage to pass a vote of "no confidence," Johnson immediately calls an election for mid October. He will hammer home the concept that the oppostion parties have stopped democracy by trying to thwart Brexit, emotions run high, the right-media really lay it on about a Corbyn led Government being a threat to the economy as well as all the other things.

During the election process, the more thoughtful MPs in the Conservative party are de-selected and replaced by hard liners. So even if there is a hung Parliament, the Tories will be obliged to following the party line, no dissent allowed.

Even worse is the thought of a Tory majority. OK, they can dispense with the DUP.

I just hope I have got this wrong, and as in 1964, Labour squeeze home with a majority.
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There are potential pitfalls along that road. Deselected MP's may stand as Independents and it's quite possible/likely that other anti Brexit parties will stand aside and give them a clear run. In addition there is the position of the Brexit party. Dick Tice but dim was on Newsnight last night and their line is that Pfeffel will sell them down the river if he gains a majority. It's potentially end game for Farage.
 
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