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MEP Salary + expenses. (if they turn up to half the parliament sittings and do nothing but take the piss) Roughly.

Salary 8,000 Euros a month
General office expenses 4,000 Euros a month
All flights, taxis, and hotel bills paid for.
 
SaintinSerbia said:
MEP Salary + expenses. (if they turn up to half the parliament sittings and do nothing but take the piss) Roughly.

Salary 8,000 Euros a month
General office expenses 4,000 Euros a month
All flights, taxis, and hotel bills paid for.
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So you agree with leaving then to stop paying this gravy train?
 
benditlikeabanana said:
So you agree with leaving then to stop paying this gravy train?
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If they turn up and do a decent job it’s by no means unreasonable wages for the level of responsibility. Unfortunately, going on Farage’s record to date, they won’t turn up, they won’t do a decent job,and they’ll generally take the piss out of the people who elected them.
 
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They represent the people of the UK though...........is there nothing we can do to complain about that kind of behaviour?? Each and every one should be banned from politics for the rest of their lives. Why on earth did they consider to do that?
 
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benditlikeabanana said:
So you agree with leaving then to stop paying this gravy train?
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Only if you agree with desolving the USA because you disagree with what Democrats/Republicans politicians are doing (delete as applicable).


I believe in voting EU politicians who actually realise the affect Europe and European issues has on the UK and care enough to do something about it and i am willing to pay for the opportunity.

If if we are leaving the EU will still affect us and we shouldn't be (literally) turning our back on the opportunity to affect it.
 
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I'm sorry guys....this whole Brexit thing has turned into a farse...........We must be the laughing stock of the world.........I voted for out....but not this whole bloody mess. I certainly don't want that twat Johnson to get in.............I'm not sure Hunt will be much better..........Now the Eu has hopefully voted in a different commissioner maybe we can actually get an honourable discharge. Or maybe lets go back to the beginning. Kick Brexit into touch give everybody some breathing space and then see what happens. This currently is no good to us or the EU.
 
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Beddytare said:
I voted for out....but not this whole bloody mess.
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This was always the problem with the Leave campaign. With Remain (which I voted for) I knew what I was going to get, with Leave, Brexit was ill-defined. Just because a vote was cast for Leave - and I'll admit there were valid reasons to do so - does not mean that it was cast for this particular version of Leave.

Given that the choice now seems to vacillate between No Deal and No Brexit, if the referendum was held tomorrow between these options, would you change your vote? And if you could have got Leave but on your terms (subject to agreement with the EU), what would those terms be?
 
SaintJabie said:
This was always the problem with the Leave campaign. With Remain (which I voted for) I knew what I was going to get, with Leave, Brexit was ill-defined. Just because a vote was cast for Leave - and I'll admit there were valid reasons to do so - does not mean that it was cast for this particular version of Leave.

Given that the choice now seems to vacillate between No Deal and No Brexit, if the referendum was held tomorrow between these options, would you change your vote? And if you could have got Leave but on your terms (subject to agreement with the EU), what would those terms be?
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In truth mate I don’t think I’d vote at all. I don’t have problem with trading with the EU or with the open borders. However they are insisting we do it on their terms only. Which leaves little or no room for negotiation. For poorer countries it’s right up their ally. Contributing very little and getting twice as much if not more back. Which country do you think is going to be hit the hardest if we pull out. Germany.........sections of Germany have been saying that they are not happy with the French stance on things. By all accounts if we leave it leaves France to dominate things even more. Sorry I don’t understand the logic of that but there it is. It cannot be any more significant than we had to negotiate with France to get in and France to get out. I have to say I thought we would have been out by now and we’ll on to a recovery mode. All this assign around is helping no one.
 
Beddytare said:
I'm sorry guys....this whole Brexit thing has turned into a farse...........We must be the laughing stock of the world.........I voted for out....but not this whole bloody mess. I certainly don't want that twat Johnson to get in.............I'm not sure Hunt will be much better..........Now the Eu has hopefully voted in a different commissioner maybe we can actually get an honourable discharge. Or maybe lets go back to the beginning. Kick Brexit into touch give everybody some breathing space and then see what happens. This currently is no good to us or the EU.
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This is what I don't understand. Didn't you realise this would happen? The UK could never extricate itself cleanly and quickly from a partnership that it had been quietly making firmer since it ever joined the EU. All the countries have been doing it as a means of being a bigger power in the world. Now the UK is total laughing stock and will have almost zero influence.
 
Beddytare said:
In truth mate I don’t think I’d vote at all. I don’t have problem with trading with the EU or with the open borders. However they are insisting we do it on their terms only. Which leaves little or no room for negotiation. For poorer countries it’s right up their ally. Contributing very little and getting twice as much if not more back. Which country do you think is going to be hit the hardest if we pull out. Germany.........sections of Germany have been saying that they are not happy with the French stance on things. By all accounts if we leave it leaves France to dominate things even more. Sorry I don’t understand the logic of that but there it is. It cannot be any more significant than we had to negotiate with France to get in and France to get out. I have to say I thought we would have been out by now and we’ll on to a recovery mode. All this assign around is helping no one.
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The country hit hardest will be ourselves Beddy, you know it by now, surely?
 
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Jeremy Hunt is suggesting that a No Deal Brexit could hit us as hard as the global financial crash of 2008 (you know, the global financial crash that Labour caused :emoticon-0105-wink: ), yet he is still prepared to do it.
If it happens, can it ALWAYS be remembered as the financial crash caused by the Conservatives, and trotted out on every political show as a reminder?
 
SaintinSerbia said:
what a complete miss the point! ok using your logic, I think we should stay in the EU long enough for the EU to pay the Brexit party MEPS the 39 billion exit fee. Is that ridiculous enough for you?
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Its as ridiculous as lib dems wearing t shirts saying bollox to 17 millon voters who voted to get off the gravy train, clear enough?
 
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