Wtf is a snowflake? Stop mouthing platitudes and either say something, or sod off. You are already very boring, and you've only posted 5 messages.
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Wtf is a snowflake? Stop mouthing platitudes and either say something, or sod off. You are already very boring, and you've only posted 5 messages.
I don't underestimate him in terms of his ability to succeed politically, but he'll either f**k us up intelligently or ignorantly, but he'll still f**k us up
His political views are just a form of upper-class twittery though
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Oh, I don't disagree that he'll be a terrible PM, just as he was a terrible Foreign Secretary. We are at an absolute nadir in our nation's political history.
Im sorry I don't want to get off on the wromg foot but may I remind you that Southampton voted to LEAVE.
So? Where I live voted REMAIN.
In any case, many people have seen how bad a decision it was to vote Leave and have changed their minds. Brexit would be utterly disastrous, by any forecast you care to mention.
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That IS the wrong foot to most of those who post on this thread
You'll find some sympathy from Beddytare and ImpSaint when they're around
Repeal Article 50 or People's vote would get you on to the RIGHT foot with the majority here
I respect everyone all opinion but the country voted to LEAVE and I think Boris is the right man to see it through the job
If there are so many Remainers like you say then why did Remain now win? That is a question I ask myself a lot.
If there are so many Remainers like you say then why did Remain now win? That is a question I ask myself a lot.
Now I've got it. Why did remain not win; obvious, sorry I missed it.
Because people have, since the referendum, begun to realise that what was promised (leave the EU and be better off) is undeliverable. So people appear to be changing their minds.
As for Boris being able to see through the job:
1. What changes in the Parliamentary arithmetic thanks to his arrival?
2. "See through the job". Which one? No Deal Brexit, Norway, Canada, Customs Union, Switzerland, Common Market 2.0, Canada+ ? Which of those is "the job"? Which of those will satisfy all leave voters?
Vin
I'll answer that in 3 parts
1. I said there were a lot of remainers "who post on this thread"
1a. That's because they happen to be very well informed. I learn stuff here
2. There really were a lot of Remainers, over 16 million, you may even know one
3. No-one really knew what they were voting for ie. What does Leave really mean?
3a. Even a lot of Remainers didn't know what Leave meant but at least they didn't vote for an undefined change
4. Now we know more, how would the country vote if asked again?
5. If the job's wrong it doesn't matter how well you do it, you're better off doing the right job less well
6. We are a Parliamentary democracy and the majority of Parliament are Remainers although you'd struggle to believe it the way the Tories are licking the electorates arses. That's the thing with a referendum, its actually advisory in a Parliamentary Democracy and can't be binding
7. I can't count
We are the Turkeys who voted for Christmas because the Brexit campaigners said "Christmas is great, its just big party with loads of booze and food"
... they never mentioned that we, the Turkeys, are a key part of the grub
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"Why did Remain now win"? Please translate.
Vin
"Velcro Roy, post: 12910395, member: 1020878"]Vin,surely you knew that was Portsea for not.
Why has Vin become shoot_spiderman? Has he hacked me?
Maybe this is a quote from the future after the People's Vote "Why did Remain now win"?
He may not be the best politician but i think he could do a job as a holding midfielder.
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Excellent post SS. I would only add that one of the things Leavers went on about an awful lot, both before and since the referendum, was “restoring the sovereignty of Parliament.” That’s the same Parliament that is, and always will be, the sovereign legislature in the UK, whether or not we are in the EU. The same Parliament that makes ALL the laws in this country, and decides, in a sovereign manner, those EU laws it chooses to adopt or not. The same Parliament that has so far resisted attempts by the Tory government to take us out of the EU without an acceptable Withdrawal Agreement. The same Parliament that was elected in 2017, a year after the referendum.I'll answer that in 3 parts
1. I said there were a lot of remainers "who post on this thread"
1a. That's because they happen to be very well informed. I learn stuff here
2. There really were a lot of Remainers, over 16 million, you may even know one
3. No-one really knew what they were voting for ie. What does Leave really mean?
3a. Even a lot of Remainers didn't know what Leave meant but at least they didn't vote for an undefined change
4. Now we know more, how would the country vote if asked again?
5. If the job's wrong it doesn't matter how well you do it, you're better off doing the right job less well
6. We are a Parliamentary democracy and the majority of Parliament are Remainers although you'd struggle to believe it the way the Tories are licking the electorates arses. That's the thing with a referendum, its actually advisory in a Parliamentary Democracy and can't be binding
7. I can't count
We are the Turkeys who voted for Christmas because the Brexit campaigners said "Christmas is great, its just big party with loads of booze and food"
... they never mentioned that we, the Turkeys, are a key part of the grub
The same Parliament that is constantly being labelled as a bunch of traitors for not following the “will of the people”.
The same Parliament Theresa May tried to bypass, and Demonic Raab threatened to prorogue
Cheers
That is quite laughable isn't it, but the sovereignty argument worked because the right-wing press and politicians have been feeding the public the line that we have lost sovereignty ever since we've been in the EU, that we're ruled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats in Brussels
We need to be teaching Politics in schools