Sad coincidence unfortunately........just as a comparison.......my mates father did 20 years for murdering my mates mother. The father voted remain........so how would you feel if we associated murders with remainers. Yes I know how silly that sounds but to me and others that is what is being suggested about us and the racist scum..
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Sad coincidence unfortunately........just as a comparison.......my mates father did 20 years for murdering my mates mother. The father voted remain........so how would you feel if we associated murders with remainers. Yes I know how silly that sounds but to me and others that is what is being suggested about us and the racist scum..
Why do I get this feeling.......that we are not going to follow the result of the referendum?. Why do I get the idea that the article 50 or what ever it’s called is going to be revoked?........ Is it because the majority of both parties MPs didn’t want us to leave in the beginning perhaps? Hmm or have I got a suspicious mind perhaps?? The MPs themselves can’t agree it is no wonder that May has had a tough time of it.
If that happens there really could be trouble ahead......nothing compared to the mess we are in at the moment but a lot worse. I really do hope the MPs come to their senses. This is beyond ridicules.
If that happens there really could be trouble ahead......nothing compared to the mess we are in at the moment but a lot worse. I really do hope the MPs come to their senses. This is beyond ridicules.
I think April 11 will be the day to watch the news all day long.............unless they all cave into May's deal.
I haven’t seen anything better on offer so far......
I think, that if they honestly feel it will be a disaster, they are doing the right thing by ignoring the result.
The other point id like to raise:
If remain had won the referendum, and then instantly joined the Schengen zone, adopted the euro and formed a European army with Europe as a result, how would you leavers feel?
This is effectively how I feel Brexit is going. We were told it would be easy and pain free, but the only options it seems you lot are willing to accept are the nuclear options
I’ll tell you what’s ridiculous. The DUP want us to leave the EU without a hard border in Ireland, or the Irish Sea, or a customs union. Work that one out!
I’d say they want a border made out of fairy dust but they don’t believe in fairies
Your post echoes a Lionel Shriver article in the opposite scenario the other day talking about how remainers would feel if remain had won the referendum and then parliament decided to leave anyway.
People in the media, the EU and the house seem to have decided to blank out facts a little on this whole "voting process." Everyone is talking about no-one voting for anything, that everything has been voted against yet they ignore that the "Brady amendment" known as the "Malthouse compromise" was actually voted for!!! Selective memories much?
The Brady Amendment was a complete waste of time, as anyone with any sense could have told them. The EU were never going to change the backstop with “alternative arrangements”. All it achieved was to waste a couple of weeks.
Malthouse = ****ehouse
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...hat-the-eu-thinks-of-the-malthouse-compromise
https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/malthouse-compromise
https://inews.co.uk/news/brexit/kit-malthouse-compromise-brexit-plan-c-tory-mps-explained/
Exactly as Chilques reply just time wasting buulshit.
Lets hope she hasn't planted Chuka Umunna in the corner of the room! 
Dear Labour and Tory MPs. Just revoke article 50. (I'm sure an equal number of your voters will hate both of you so it won't be the end of either of your parties) Have another referendum and then get back to talking bollocks about something else!
BBC headlining stories about Joe Biden kissing the back of someones head and rubbing noses with someone else. This apparently has ruined his chances as a Presidential candidate. Maybe he should have grabbed their pussy? confused from Serbia.
Why is it that all that the nutters support Brexit?...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-47790939
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-47790939
Is being a politician a real job? Do they think it's a real job?
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I should add, I'm just frustrated by so many individuals so consistently duplicitous
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I should add, I'm just frustrated by so many individuals so consistently duplicitous
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This may have come up on here before, but worth repeating. Here’s what that famous old Whig Edmund Burke said to the electors of Bristol back in 1774, regarding representative democracy:
“Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgment; and he betrays, instead of serving, you if he sacrifices it to your opinion.”
Winston Churchill refined the concept further, in his Duties of a Member of Parliament:
“The first duty of a member of Parliament is to do what he thinks in his faithful and disinterested judgement is right and necessary for the honour and safety of Great Britain. His second duty is to his constituents, of whom he is the representative but not the delegate. Burke's famous declaration on this subject is well known. It is only in the third place that his duty to party organisation or programme takes rank. All these three loyalties should be observed, but there is no doubt of the order in which they stand under any healthy manifestation of democracy.”
This will hopefully serve as a rebuttal to those constantly banging on about MP’s “respecting the 2016 Referendum”, and “betraying the manifestos they stood on in 2017.”
“Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgment; and he betrays, instead of serving, you if he sacrifices it to your opinion.”
Winston Churchill refined the concept further, in his Duties of a Member of Parliament:
“The first duty of a member of Parliament is to do what he thinks in his faithful and disinterested judgement is right and necessary for the honour and safety of Great Britain. His second duty is to his constituents, of whom he is the representative but not the delegate. Burke's famous declaration on this subject is well known. It is only in the third place that his duty to party organisation or programme takes rank. All these three loyalties should be observed, but there is no doubt of the order in which they stand under any healthy manifestation of democracy.”
This will hopefully serve as a rebuttal to those constantly banging on about MP’s “respecting the 2016 Referendum”, and “betraying the manifestos they stood on in 2017.”
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It looks like the beginning of the end for this part of the process. There will be resignations from the Cabinet, the Tories will split into at least two camps and JC will have the keys to Downing Street fairly soon. This is a phase of our national life which moves the political plates around as did the Act of Union with Ireland and later the Corn Law repeal. It might work out differently I admit, but peace on the Brexit front, I fear is not likely to break out soon. Parliament taking control has been in my view a disaster waiting to happen.