Why on earth do politicians guess or not wait for evidence?
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its not them or their loved ones that have to run into the breach
for all of their sabre rattling, Russia are a very poor second to the USA when it comes to an air war which Syria would be, in recent play wars, the F22 and F35 when used correctly for the first time scored at a ratio of 22/1 against F15,F16 and euro fighters. I hope that sense will prevail, maybe smoke a few spliffs, chill the $%^& out and realise assad is not worth plunging the area into war
Hang on, this is twice in a week I've agreed with you!
When I moved to Serbia in 2003 (4 years after NATO bombed the **** out of my now home town) my dear friends gave me about 6 months before I was shot. I'm still here!!! and it feels very safe being a long way away from all this ridiculous Syria posturing!
My understanding is an independent analyst has gone in and confirmed the use of Chemicals. You might indeed ask a lot of questions over Assad. Another question I would be asking is where these chemical weapons were made. You indeed may not like the use of chemicals but it has been proved they used Chemicals in the past. The Ruskies do not condemn the use in any of their statements I have seen.............Nor would they I guess as Assad is their puppet...........
I think Assad’s opposition has also been known to use chemical weapons as well.
Could be Assad. Could be the opposition sacrificing a few, to get the reaction that we have seen being played out in the media.
This needs cool heads and patience, rather than governments finger pointing without proof.
i was under the impression the rebels had nowhere near the infrastructure to produce it unless then captured some which you would think they would make a big deal of finding.
edit: but i don't actually know what was dropped in the last attack.
That’s the trouble .......they do have proof. The problem is that the independent group that went in to check does not include any Russians. Even then if they did the Ruskies would say that the people or persons were influenced by the West. No matter how you look at it the Ruskies would deny any use of chemicals. Sorry they have more lying politicians than we do........
Proof that it was Assad that used it? Or proof that it was a chemical weapon?
I think the problem of proof is that if chlorine gas is used it evaporates away and leaves no trace?
Are you the type of person who for ****s and giggles wears a Saints top whilst shopping at Gunwharf Quays
They can tell from taking blood samples from those that were affected..........
I’m clearly not reading or watching the same media, as the last comment I saw on it, this morning said that there was no categorical evidence proving that the Syrians were responsible, on this occasion, just that they were highly suspected. I know they have history of it, just as the Russians have history of attacking ex spies in the UK, but is suspicion enough?
Even our ex ambassador to Syria suggests that it is highly unlikely that Syria were responsible, on this occasion, so I am still hoping for a cautious approach.
Even the history of attacks can be questioned. As I understand it none of the independent investigators of the attack last year actually visited the location where the attack took place. I think all the evidence was provided to them by the rebels and many of the rebel groups in Syria have or had links to ISIS or al Qaeda so I’d be very reluctant to trust them completely.
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Not quite so; the evidence was provided by the first responders. There was Russian-backed social media campaign to paint them as biased.
I'm terribly disappointed that the constant efforts of our non-democratic friends around the world have moved people from scepticism about claims (about pretty much anything) all the way over into deep cynicism and a feeling that *no-one* can be trusted. Looks like their tactics are working.
Vin
We live in an era where politicians and the media habitually lie and distort facts to meet their own agendas. They only have themselves to blame for a person’s cynicism.
If wanting our government to be categorically, 100% positive that Assad is behind the use of chemical weapons, in this or any other instance, makes me a cynic, then I am proud to be a cynic.
If our government wants to drag our country into a conflict with Syria, and potentially with Russia, a conflict I am against, then I want them to do it on the back of irrefutable evidence.
We’ve been there and done that before with Bush and Bliar.