From that indicator you can clearly see why no Tory speaks of another general election in the next few weeks or couple of months. Far too chancy of a real defeat.
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QATAR ARE FUNDING TERROR.
Oh...hold up...you want to buy some warplanes? Sure...
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-40287570
Oh...hold up...you want to buy some warplanes? Sure...
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-40287570
He's right, as the UK government have to be "demonstrably impartial" to uphold their part of the agreement.
Gerry Adams is in the Irish parliament. Is it not a case of "does not apply to us?"
Gerry Adams isn't part of the British or Irish governments though. Not sure what your point is Imps.
Was reading elsewhere that the likely time for another General Election is September.
Reason being that the students would not yet have returned to the cities where they cast their last vote, which could affect that seat. Plus should they want to vote in their home town, they would have to re-register.
Not like the Tories to be sneaky.
Great opinion article in the Guardian. Brexit, as seen from continental Europe. They couldn't be happier. The predicted Frexit, for example, disappeared without trace. Our disastrous experience has brought them all together. At least we've done some good in the last 12 months: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/15/britain-brexit-europe-populism-eu
Brought them all together? Has no one noticed that they are all seeing off far right opponents yet we have no such problem in the UK? If you want to consider UKIP as far right-lite then I would say they are much less together than we are.
Yes there is a rich poor left/right divide in this country at the moment but over there it is much more than that. A far right party would never get anywhere near 22% first round in France let alone the mid thirties in the run off. Similarly if a Wilders type ran here he wouldn't make it into our house let alone be "defeated" narrowly.
I would take our divide over theirs anyday.
And France has only just elected their first Centrist. See what happens after they've experienced 5 years of Le Blair!!!
There's no way that you can dirty it up Imp. This opinion is from a European. The ordinary person in Europe is chuffed to bits.
Neither are the DUP. They are not part of the British Government. It isn't a coalition.
It's a an opinion cherrypicked from a Pro EU publication by someone from France making snide comments about the UK. I would guess there are lots in Europe that wish they could have a Brexit too. Probably a minority but not tiny.
Did you read the article or did you read the comments from Guardian readers? Some of both sides there.
This nugget from the "Pro EU" commenters struck me:
"Much rather be a French teenager on welfare than a British youth struggling at a low pay, zero-hours, pointless mcjob.
And one even adds in weather as a Pro France vs UK comment when challenged about youth unemployment in France. What has weather got to do with Brexit or politicians?
As for those near the top of the EU. They are selling their "victories" as defeating fascism when the reality is that the far right have gained. Yes they lost but they are ignoring something that is getting bigger.
In France the far right gained!! In the Netherlands the far right gained!! In Austria they are talking about a 53% vs 47% "defeat of the far right" The far right candidate came from way off previously to gain their best result in an election in the first round.
The article is a smug representation from a Pro EU federation supporter that is clutching at straws and then making the ridiculous assertion that BRexit has "innoculated Europe from populism" which is quite blatantly not true as seen by the facts.
Yes they held off the "populist" threat however "innoculated"?? Really? The reality is that populism gained.
Then the municpial election defeats for the 5 star movement in Italy are brought up as more "evidence."
By that last measure we can ignore Theresa May's balls up in June because she "defeated" the left wing parties soundly in our "municipal" elections in May!!!
It is such a typical smug eurocrat viewpoint to ignore problems and hope they go away, maybe even believing they will. They didn't get in but if they are under the illusion that they are innoculated from populism when "populists" gained votes is just being blind to the facts.
Seeing as people seem to like Jonathan Pie on here then maybe you can hear him say the same thing:
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If they are propping up the British Government then they will expect something in return. Therefore the British Government cannot be demonstrably impartial, it's fairly simple to work out Imps.
So what other option is there other than minority government (which I think we will do anyway?)
If the Tories go into minority government the DUP will still support their Queen's speech. Labour leavers will still support Brexit plans.
I think in the end it will be such a loose agreement that in effect it only covers the Queen's speech which they always support us on anyway.
Except that the centre pro-Europe candidate came through. You're desperate Imps. But cheer up. You got your way in the UK. You can tell us in years to come what a brilliant manoeuvre it was. Even if a Labour government is elected in few months time, we'll still be just an island off continental Europe. Which is what you wanted.
The other option, which will happen anyway sooner or later, is another election. And when the truth comes out about Grenfell Tower nobody in their right mind will vote Conservative.
The centre candidate did come through. That is not the point.
The article talks about Europe now being "immunised." It quite clearly isn't. The far right parties ALL increased their share of the pot in some cases substantially. Only those who are blind think that is immunisation. I'm in no way saying it is holding off the inevitable, just that they have to face reality that far right politicians increased their vote.
Or are you admitting that the UK is now immunised from Corbynism? Because the "right" candidate "came through?"
I think we will have a new PM before October!!! Theresa May is shuffling all the Eurosceptic loud voices into junior and ministerial roles hoping she can dictate to them. She is going to be disappointed there.
What truth? Both parties have questions to answer on this.
Blair's government "relaxed" safety laws around about 2005 and while in office the Tories (Gavin Barwell for one) ignored warnings over safety of flats like this.
So it will get dirty because the whole house of Blair and Cameron's globalists that handed over so much state work to their pals in cushy state funded profiteering organisations saw a chance to make money and spent money on "prettying" up tower blocks rather than fit them with sprinklers and the relaxed laws under the Blair government have been carried into this government.
Incidentally the laws they relaxed were brought in by Thatcher in the mid eighties!!!
So you are right to point the finger at the Tories. Their housing ministers ignored warnings. Barwell is the one that lost his seat and was immediately installed as May's new "aide." He can F*** right off when they ditch her. And Labour's relaxation of the law needs to be investigated too.
And then they need to address why for nearly 2 decades have councils been shifting normal folks out of areas because they are desirable to the rich and when they can't shift them spending money (that could be spent on people that need it) on "improving" rich people's views.
This is a cross party problem so you can't really spin it. The result of globalisation where London property is hugely sought after by foreign investors and the people at the top that support globalisation want to shift the people out to get at the $$$. See that article I posted a page or 2 back where residents of another council are said that it was "social cleansing."
This was happening before the Tories got in and has continued. How many normal folks benefit from regeneration? Are they living in the Olympic Park or are they for people who can afford it?
My estate here in Lincoln is told about the regeneration of the area. What they mean is the shopping precinct they built down the road..............for the massive upmarket housing estate they built on the back of it. Not for us council wallers. All for those with the money to buy all these upmarket homes (or rent them.)
Wahey we have a Costa!!! How many council estate people go to coffee shops when they have a kettle at home?
The only good thing it has brought is a dentist (with a 5 week waiting list when you need an appointment.)
And this is a Labour City Council here.
There are 3 (council) tower blocks in Lincoln. 2 are out of sight of the city centre but then I got to thinking about the other one. The other one is quite close to the city centre and lo and behold it has been prettied up as show in the picture below, see the cathedral about half a mile behind it!!! Looks almost new!!! Is that cladding? Yes it is because it says so in the planning permission . And below this picture is a picture of the one near me to compare:
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Compare it to the one near my house which was built a year earlier (1965) and hasn't been prettied up because it isn't in view of the centre of Lincoln. Interesting that it seems not to have cladding and has had a fire which was limited to one area. Fire station only a mile and a half away though so that might help. My mate lives on the 13th floor of this one and it's a dive inside and out. :
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The un-prettied up flats were evacuated for this fire and this was last year!!! Quite scary after the last 2 days as 20 firemen were there putting out the fire caused by the phone mast power cabling on the side there. Yes if you live in a council tower block you get great reception but your brain gets fried by radiation from the mobile masts. That's why they took the picture of the nice one looking upward. They don't want to show the numerous antennaes and masts and all manner of other transmitters and dishes they put on top of these blocks:
http://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/f...tackle-blaze/story-29594683-detail/story.html
And the first one built in 1964, the other un-prettied up one. Yes another fire this year. Like the one above it did not spread yet took 20 firemen!!! What will happen if the tidied up one (with lovely new cladding) has a fire?
http://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/m...jarvis-house/story-30276933-detail/story.html
Lincoln has been a Labour Council for all but 3 years since 1982. 2007 - 2010 was Tory by a small margin. Since 2010 Labour outnumbers opposition by over 4:1 (currently 26 Labour, 6 Tory, no other parties elected.)
So in 2015/16 the one close to the nice bits of Lincoln was vamped up. The other 2 haven't been done and aren't going to be. This is all about money and prettying things up. Consider that the one they have re-furbed is the newest one built in 1966 while the other 2 they haven't refurbed were built before in 1964 and 1965 then ask yourself why this one has had special treatment to look like posh flats? Because it is a position where Tourists can see it and where they are building upmarket city centre apartment blocks. Any old office block in the centre of Lincoln is bought and turned into luxury flats (some luxury student accommodation.) Any money invested in areas of Lincoln (now and for the past 20 years) is sold as investing in the people of Lincoln yet it isn't invested in people at all.
This is not (solely) a Tory problem. It is a greed problem exacerbated by Politicians from both parties that are far to "in on the deal."
£3.2million spent "on the people of Lincoln" there. Hurrah. I've got a coffee shop and can look at a nice tower block. regeneration is doing wonders for me. What did they spend on people like me? A new bathroom suite when the old one was fine and retiling the roof when the old roof was fine.
Money thrown at projects for their pals in the state funded plcs that do the work while all the big money is spent on people who will live here for a few years (at Uni) and people who have money to buy up prime locations within the city centre.
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This guy agrees with me about generation and what it means for most poor folk:
https://theconversation.com/grenfel...veals-ugly-flaws-of-regeneration-agenda-79452
https://theconversation.com/grenfel...veals-ugly-flaws-of-regeneration-agenda-79452
Nobody in their right mind would vote conservative after 7 failed years of austerity and 7 years during which the NHS is slowly sold off to Richard Branson. But 42% of the electorate still did.