Do you honestly think May has ever looked the part? She's a bumbling mess with no plan other than hide behind a perceived weakness in Corbyn. She is utterly useless.
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Do you honestly think May has ever looked the part? She's a bumbling mess with no plan other than hide behind a perceived weakness in Corbyn. She is utterly useless.
He is certainly improving but he's not at the level of God quite yet.
Agree. I'm not impressed by ONE political leader to be honest. Jeremy seems a decent sort of chap but I shudder to think of how the figures their manifesto will cost will bankrupt the country, and his ministers are, in general, a joke. The Tories I have no time for either - it's all money for those who already have it and screw everyone else. To be honest, the only party I'd even come close to agreeing with on many subjects are the Greens, but even they have a few things I disagree with.
I would like low taxation, money for the NHS and schooling, a closure of tax loopholes, a strong armed forces, inheritance tax only to be levied on assets over £1 million (as it was always meant to be), a raising of the limit on stamp duty so ordinary folk don't get screwed, a fairer benefit scheme to avoid those who play the system and give money to those who need it and more investment in renewable energy. But I know I don't stand a cat in hells chaise, so I've gone for the only local candidate I actually met and quite liked.
I love this country, but I cannot stand about 90% of politicians who seem to be in it for themselves ....
I'm off to Ireland for a holiday and will be back after the election so no more comments from me ....
Personally, I don't see the fear in taxation. Tax needs to lead to the richer helping the poorer, and the public services we rely on being given what they need to actually work...
Piers Morgan in the Daily Mail.
PIERS MORGAN: Mrs May talks tough now but what did she do when she was in charge of the Home Office? She cut police numbers by 20,000. And now we’re paying the price in blood.
Prime Minister Theresa May said all the right things today and exuded her preferred ‘strong and stable’ tone and rhetoric.
But this, lest we forget, was the same woman who when she was Home Secretary for six years slashed UK police numbers by 20,000.
That is a staggering number of officers to remove from the streets.
The truth, as Mr O’Reilly warned, is that our police force has been so badly decimated by these savage cuts it cannot possibly defend us properly.
When we’re told there are ‘extra police’ on the streets after each of these attacks, that doesn’t don’t actually mean ‘extra police’.
It means existing police, already overworked and exhausted, forced to cancel leave yet again or work longer shifts in the most gruelling of circumstances.
We need those missing 20,000 police officers back on our streets, fast.
We need more armed police, too. Staggeringly, we have fewer armed police now than we did in 2010. Yet as we saw last night, it is only armed police who can end these terror rampages fast enough to save many more lives from being taken.
We also need more undercover cops to infiltrate the Muslim extremist communities and especially the Saudi-sponsored Wahhabi mosques where these jihadis are being brain-washed and radicalised.
Theresa May made a terrible mistake when she got rid of 20,000 police officers, and it has now come back to haunt her. We’ve lost much of our ability to prevent these attacks happening by taking away our eyes and ears to the ground from where the attackers emanate.
Like many, I wouldn’t trust Jeremy Corbyn and Diane Abbott as far as I could throw them when it comes to protecting national security due to their hideously conflicting positions on everything from terrorism to our nuclear deterrent.
But one thing they have got right is the pressing need for more police.
When I see Theresa May standing there today saying ‘enough is enough’, I just wish she’d listened to our police officers when they said the exact same thing and she ignored them.
You dropped the ball Prime Minister and now you have the blood of your citizens on your hands.
Pretty brutal stuff, I'm amazed to see such a critical article in the Mail of all places.
PIERS MORGAN: Mrs May talks tough now but what did she do when she was in charge of the Home Office? She cut police numbers by 20,000. And now we’re paying the price in blood.
Prime Minister Theresa May said all the right things today and exuded her preferred ‘strong and stable’ tone and rhetoric.
But this, lest we forget, was the same woman who when she was Home Secretary for six years slashed UK police numbers by 20,000.
That is a staggering number of officers to remove from the streets.
The truth, as Mr O’Reilly warned, is that our police force has been so badly decimated by these savage cuts it cannot possibly defend us properly.
When we’re told there are ‘extra police’ on the streets after each of these attacks, that doesn’t don’t actually mean ‘extra police’.
It means existing police, already overworked and exhausted, forced to cancel leave yet again or work longer shifts in the most gruelling of circumstances.
We need those missing 20,000 police officers back on our streets, fast.
We need more armed police, too. Staggeringly, we have fewer armed police now than we did in 2010. Yet as we saw last night, it is only armed police who can end these terror rampages fast enough to save many more lives from being taken.
We also need more undercover cops to infiltrate the Muslim extremist communities and especially the Saudi-sponsored Wahhabi mosques where these jihadis are being brain-washed and radicalised.
Theresa May made a terrible mistake when she got rid of 20,000 police officers, and it has now come back to haunt her. We’ve lost much of our ability to prevent these attacks happening by taking away our eyes and ears to the ground from where the attackers emanate.
Like many, I wouldn’t trust Jeremy Corbyn and Diane Abbott as far as I could throw them when it comes to protecting national security due to their hideously conflicting positions on everything from terrorism to our nuclear deterrent.
But one thing they have got right is the pressing need for more police.
When I see Theresa May standing there today saying ‘enough is enough’, I just wish she’d listened to our police officers when they said the exact same thing and she ignored them.
You dropped the ball Prime Minister and now you have the blood of your citizens on your hands.
Pretty brutal stuff, I'm amazed to see such a critical article in the Mail of all places.
Corbyn can't be any worse then the Tories at national debt. It's increased nearly a trillion since they took over. So much for austerity.
Wait until the Mail, Express, Sun and Telegraph twist those words and distort his message.
The knives are out already...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...r-aide-steve-hilton-calls-theresa-may-resign/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...r-aide-steve-hilton-calls-theresa-may-resign/
An interesting development in this election has been the Telegraph's - once described as the Torygraph - unfavourable coverage of May and her government.
They balanced it out the further you read down the article. In the end they were reporting on May's insistence on heavily regulating the internet. What she doesn't seem to realise is that the secret is out already that our every word is under surveillance. What I'm writing here could pop up on a surveillance screen if the secret services bothered to look. There are no hiding places on the internet. Only private networks, and they would remain whether you heavily regulated the internet or not. She is putting fear into people totally unnecessarily in order for them to back her. It's like the Daily Mail does every day. Find a subject. Declare it a threat. Make the public scared of it. Then tell them of your intention to nullify it. And the ignorant get onside whilst hurriedly giving away another piece of personal liberty. Sorry Mrs May, but it's bull****.
The Telegraph read my posts and use me as their ear on the ground
(not really but could easily be true.)As for the whole banging on about May and police cuts. Labour are being very hypocritical there. For one as Lord Carlile (Liberal Democrat peer, not a Tory) who was the UK's Independent reviewer of Terrorism 2001-11 has stated today that "Bobbys on the beat are nothing to do with counter terrorism and that the police themselves (Cressida Dick for one) have stated they have sufficient resourcing to deal with Terrorism as shown by the 8 minute reaction in London."
That is of course forgetting that Andy Burnham actually proposed that a further 10% could be cut on top of the Tory cuts in 2015. That was when he was Corbyn's shadow home secretary!!
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...rnham-outline-labours-change-tone-police-cuts
The usual smoke and mirrors on this one (although I would personally like to see more police on the streets anyway.)
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Just one thing Imps, it was Steve Hilton (David Cameron's former aide) that was calling for May's resignation in the Telegraph article.
The Telegraph read my posts and use me as their ear on the ground
As for the whole banging on about May and police cuts. Labour are being very hypocritical there. For one as Lord Carlile (Liberal Democrat peer, not a Tory) who was the UK's Independent reviewer of Terrorism (2001-11has stated today that "Bobbys on the beat are nothing to do with counter terrorism and that the police themselves (Cressida Dick for one) have stated they have sufficient resourcing to deal with Terrorism as shown by the 8 minute reaction in London.
That is of course forgetting that Andy Burnham actually proposed that a further 10% could be cut on top of the Tory cuts in 2015. That was when he was Corbyn's shadow home secretary!!
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...rnham-outline-labours-change-tone-police-cuts
The usual smoke and mirrors on this one (although I would personally like to see more police on the streets anyway.)
Just one thing Imps, it was Steve Hilton (David Cameron's former aide) that was calling for May's resignation in the Telegraph article.
The Telegraph read my posts and use me as their ear on the ground
As for the whole banging on about May and police cuts. Labour are being very hypocritical there. For one as Lord Carlile (Liberal Democrat peer, not a Tory) who was the UK's Independent reviewer of Terrorism (2001-11has stated today that "Bobbys on the beat are nothing to do with counter terrorism and that the police themselves (Cressida Dick for one) have stated they have sufficient resourcing to deal with Terrorism as shown by the 8 minute reaction in London.
That is of course forgetting that Andy Burnham actually proposed that a further 10% could be cut on top of the Tory cuts in 2015. That was when he was Corbyn's shadow home secretary!!
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...rnham-outline-labours-change-tone-police-cuts
The usual smoke and mirrors on this one (although I would personally like to see more police on the streets anyway.)
This policeman disagrees...
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Steve Hilton was pro Brexit. May's aide Nick Timothy is a keynesian socialist. They have jobs. Doesn't mean they have any real loyalties other than to their wage.
I lean Tory. Never liked May. Liked Cameron and Osborne less but never liked May.
Cressida Dick doesn't and she is in charge isn't she?
While I do think that there should be more police on the ground there is always a lot of politics in everything whether there are cuts or not. Everybody wants to protect their pot and gain more if they can.
The trouble with politics is that there is only ever 100% and if someone gets an increase then someone has to get a decrease.
No but Police Unions will always try and protect their pot. Workers will always say they have too much work or they are under pressure. Does anyone on here think they personally have an easy job? Do we not all think our employers should take on more people to share the workload more?
Real right wingers (not centre right) refer to Theresa May as "Sharia May" because of her hate speech laws that seemingly do not apply to people shouting UK go to Hell or UK police go to hell and her support for Sharia councils within the UK framework. They also stated that she is talking tough on Brexit yet will cave in and deliver a soft Brexit instead.
I tend to hope she will go through with Hard Brexit. That is her only saving grace and was before this month's wobbles!!!
She will win the election on her Brexit talk which she seemingly mistook for "Theresa May support." She should have won it by much much more but has blown a lot of support in recent weeks.
At this point in time I can see her scraping a small increase in majority this time round but if she then delivers a soft Brexit then in 5 years time the Tories will see another 1997!!!
That is why the Tories have their knives out. They can't do anything until Brexit is done but I can see her being booted out within a month after that.
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Since Theresa May became Home Secretary in 2010, police numbers have fallen by 46,700, or 19.2%. Hardest hit overall has undoubtedly been the Met.
I would suggest Imps that these are the facts. The rest is window dressing.
I would suggest Imps that these are the facts. The rest is window dressing.
I can remember walking to the Leicester City game 2 days after the 2015 election with an old friend who was a senior academic and being introduced to very senior police officer who had been a masters student of my friend some 20 years before. When asked about the ramifications of the election result our policeman friend gave a short answer... and I quote... 'We're f**ked'. Seemed fairly succinct to me..
These are the facts, I agree. But Burnham saying a further 10% could be cut while shadow secretary was also a fact. Ed Milliband wanted to protect police jobs. When Corbyn came in and Burnham became Shadow home Secretary Burnham said a further 10% could be cut. Those are facts.
Labour changed to a policy of supporting the government cuts on police when Corbyn replaced Milliband as leader yet now they are critical of something they supported under his leadership!!!