Off Topic Politics Thread

[It'sOnlyAGame]

You defend the Israeli government, who are responsible for more civilian deaths than most terrorist organisations can even dream of, so you can get off your high horse imo.

Let's face it, you and your cronies couldn't care less about Palestinians. It's just the left's fixation with Jews that concerns the loonies.
There are scores of armed conflicts going on in this world but only the one involving Jews gets your dander up.
I bow to your greater knowledge of how many civilians are killed by terrorists.

 

[thebronze14]

What integrity, what a beacon.

https://removepaywalls.com/https://www.spiked-online.com/2025/01/27/president-higginss-hatred-for-israel-is-bringing-shame-on-ireland/

Shame on Ireland because he mentioned other groups ethnically cleansed by Nazi Germany? Shame for mentioning the barbaric actions of the Israel government? Nah don't think so. Mad to think 75k people killed, countless others maimed, many tens of thousands more led to famine and people get offended when a finger is pointed at Israel. Crazy world we live in.

What integrity, what a beacon.

https://removepaywalls.com/https://www.spiked-online.com/2025/01/27/president-higginss-hatred-for-israel-is-bringing-shame-on-ireland/

 

[Sucky]

Let's face it, you and your cronies couldn't care less about Palestinians. It's just the left's fixation with Jews that concerns the loonies.
There are scores of armed conflicts going on in this world but only the one involving Jews gets your dander up.
I bow to your greater knowledge of how many civilians are killed by terrorists.

you mean like muslims killing thousands of christians in Africa currently

Yeh ive never seen archers mention that once actually

 

[It'sOnlyAGame]

https://removepaywalls.com/https://www.spiked-online.com/2026/04/21/israels-enemies-are-britains-too/

 

[SaintsForTheWin]

****ing hell Ian.
1) you’re wrong
2) you brought the great unwashed to this thread

 

[Ian Thumwood]

Now being reported that the assailant was a Somali born British national and was involved in another knife in Southwick prior to the attacked in Golder's Green. The Chief of the Met stated that the attacker was known to them and had a history of mental health issues and violence.

I think we should be looking towards Valdo Caldocane for comparisons and not a terrorist related incident.

 

[Ian Thumwood]

I am not condoning terrorism and I was aware of Iranian operatives working in the UK albeit my understanding that this is largely through the employment of proxies such as UK citizens with criminal records.

Article relating to homicides in UK attributable to people with schizophrenia . ....

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40183136/

Mental health homicide inquiries in England 2010-2023: review of methodology and findings - PubMed

There is considerable variation in the methodology of mental health homicide inquiries, with little use of human factors and systems theory. Inquiries repeatedly identify the same themes, and most mental health homicides are found to be neither predictable nor preventable. We make...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Ultimately, I cannot see that this sad incident will be likely to have been premeditated or organised. More likely that he did not take his meds.

 

[Le Tissier's Laces]

I am not condoning terrorism and I was aware of Iranian operatives working in the UK albeit my understanding that this is largely through the employment of proxies such as UK citizens with criminal records.

Article relating to homicides in UK attributable to people with schizophrenia . ....

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40183136/

Mental health homicide inquiries in England 2010-2023: review of methodology and findings - PubMed

There is considerable variation in the methodology of mental health homicide inquiries, with little use of human factors and systems theory. Inquiries repeatedly identify the same themes, and most mental health homicides are found to be neither predictable nor preventable. We make...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Ultimately, I cannot see that this sad incident will be likely to have been premeditated or organised. More likely that he did not take his meds.

"Proxies such as UK citizens with criminal records" - and maybe mental health issues too, Ian?

You're so desperate not to admit that maybe, just maybe, there's a problem with anti-semitism kicking about.

 

[LincolnSaint]

One of the best things about not606 is it allows anyone to comment about anything.

And people simply cannot help themselves from commenting about things they know absolutely **** all about.

Now Ians politics are definitely very different to mine, and thats absolutely normal. But he's so wedded to his views that regardless of any actual independent knowledge of a topic, he'll spin them back to his view of the world. (Some of the stuff he said about the Manchester Airport incident for example.)

Os got banned for a lot less

 

[Sucky]

"Proxies such as UK citizens with criminal records" - and maybe mental health issues too, Ian?

You're so desperate not to admit that maybe, just maybe, there's a problem with anti-semitism kicking about.

Is there tho? An antisemitism problem I mean

As far as a I can see the only people giving Jews reason to leave the uk are Muslims

Stabby

Rapey

Muslims

 

[tomw24]

One of the best things about not606 is it allows anyone to comment about anything.

And people simply cannot help themselves from commenting about things they know absolutely **** all about.

Now Ians politics are definitely very different to mine, and thats absolutely normal. But he's so wedded to his views that regardless of any actual independent knowledge of a topic, he'll spin them back to his view of the world. (Some of the stuff he said about the Manchester Airport incident for example.)

Os got banned for a lot less

Os got banned for constantly trolling despite being warned numerous times. I don't believe Ian is deliberately baiting people. I think he genuinely believes what he posts which is somewhat alarming but he's not breaking any rules. Unless he posts something that is openly antisemitic I can't ban him. Freedom of speech and all that.

 

[LincolnSaint]

Os got banned for constantly trolling despite being warned numerous times. I don't believe Ian is deliberately baiting people. I think he genuinely believes what he posts which is somewhat alarming but he's not breaking any rules. Unless he posts something that is openly antisemitic I can't ban him. Freedom of speech and all that.

I probably didn't write that well. I'm not calling for Ian to be banned at all.

 

[StJabbo1]

I probably didn't write that well. I'm not calling for Ian to be banned at all.

I probable think you're right about your write. I was going to post something similar to Tom's below re Os and Ian.

Os got banned for constantly trolling despite being warned numerous times. I don't believe Ian is deliberately baiting people. I think he genuinely believes what he posts which is somewhat alarming but he's not breaking any rules. Unless he posts something that is openly antisemitic I can't ban him. Freedom of speech and all that.

 

[StJabbo1]

Is there tho? An antisemitism problem I mean

As far as a I can see the only people giving Jews reason to leave the uk are Muslims

Stabby

Rapey

Muslims

The BNP and EDL and other WASPs from the far right must have conveniently slipped your memory.

 

[StJabbo1]

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[LincolnSaint]

Twitter completely awash with armchair tactical advisors, moaning about the Met taking down a knife wielding stabber.

Imagine being that naive about life and yet at the same time totally and unequivocally believing you have the answers. It's definitely unrelated that those most unhappy with the officers' actions are those also posting pro-Palestine posts.

It's almost like they have issues with Jews

 

[Puck]

Twitter completely awash with armchair tactical advisors, moaning about the Met taking down a knife wielding stabber.

Imagine being that naive about life and yet at the same time totally and unequivocally believing you have the answers. It's definitely unrelated that those most unhappy with the officers' actions are those also posting pro-Palestine posts.

It's almost like they have issues with Jews

Completely agree. It's bizarre how detached some people are from reality.

"OMG, they're kicking him. Police brutality!"

THE GUY'S GOT A KNIFE AND HAS STABBED PEOPLE.

 

[thereisonlyoneno7]

Twitter completely awash with armchair tactical advisors, moaning about the Met taking down a knife wielding stabber.

Imagine being that naive about life and yet at the same time totally and unequivocally believing you have the answers. It's definitely unrelated that those most unhappy with the officers' actions are those also posting pro-Palestine posts.

It's almost like they have issues with Jews

Yeah I dont get it. I saw some of the videos and without context I see a guy getting taken down with a taser, then laid into a bit by the officers, whilst they try to retrain him.

However, the real context is that this is a guy intent on harm and murder - that also translates to the officers who are trying to restrain him. Why are they doing it? Because they like it? No, because they are trying to make the street safe and remove him from the street. If you go around wielding a knife, you have to expect that you may get hurt yourself. All this BS that you have to restrain him 'legally' FFS. No, he is intent on harm, so do what it takes IMO to take him down. It doesn't matter what your views are on anything - human decency means take him down and stop him from causing carnage and terror. Yep, terror as that is what it was.

 

[LincolnSaint]

Completely agree. It's bizarre how detached some people are from reality.

"OMG, they're kicking him. Police brutality!"

THE GUY'S GOT A KNIFE AND HAS STABBED PEOPLE.

They don't understand how taser works.
They don't understand the law.
They don't understand police tactics.
They've never ever had to restrain an unarmed individual much less an armed one.

But by god they’ve decided that it was wrong and they'll loudly and proudly claim it, without a hint of embarrassment or humility. It's so entrenched on the left that the police are wrong that even when excellent police work is shown they'll complain.

2 things will always be true to the hard left.
-policing in western societies is always evil
-bad things happening to Jews is a good thing.

 

[LincolnSaint]

Yeah I dont get it. I saw some of the videos and without context I see a guy getting taken down with a taser, then laid into a bit by the officers, whilst they try to retrain him.

However, the real context is that this is a guy intent on harm and murder - that also translates to the officers who are trying to restrain him. Why are they doing it? Because they like it? No, because they are trying to make the street safe and remove him from the street. If you go around wielding a knife, you have to expect that you may get hurt yourself. All this BS that you have to restrain him 'legally' FFS. No, he is intent on harm, so do what it takes IMO to take him down. It doesn't matter what your views are on anything - human decency means take him down and stop him from causing carnage and terror. Yep, terror as that is what it was.

Thing is mate, that was legal. There is such an educational black hole in England around law and violence and there is a really strongly held belief that certain things are off the table when it comes to police tactics. They're not.

None of this is secret. The government is pretty open when it comes to law and police tactics. Anyone can read it, anyone can find out. They'd rather not though, they'd rather posit what they think the police can do and argue against their own beliefs. It's infuriating