Off Topic Politics Thread

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I mean, either Musk is lying, or he doesn’t know/understand. Both of those are quite disturbing possibilities, if you’re not an idiot.

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This is depressing. So much about what Musk is doing is horrendous. To do no fact-checking as someone in his position is actually criminal!
 
This is depressing. So much about what Musk is doing is horrendous. To do no fact-checking as someone in his position is actually criminal!

Agreed. But he doesn’t care. This is a personal vendetta, as Reuters ran a couple of deep dive pieces about him over the last few years, and because he’s a child he now hates them for it.
 
Agreed. But he doesn’t care. This is a personal vendetta, as Reuters ran a couple of deep dive pieces about him over the last few years, and because he’s a child he now hates them for it.

And the worrying thing is we have a child in his position being enabled by the President of the United States....who is also a child.
 
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And Trump's appeasement of Putin as sensible when in fact it's ****ing stupid and must be a huge cause of concern to all the Baltic states.
I wonder if @Osvaldorama has any sensible response to the growing international condemnation of Trump giving Putin everything he wanted before negotiations even began?
"Kaja Kallas, the European Union's top diplomat, denounced U.S. President Donald Trump’s call with Russian leader Vladimir Putin on Thursday, saying any deal on Ukraine's future that is arranged without European involvement will be a non-starter."
“Why are we giving them [Russia] everything they want even before the negotiations have started? It's appeasement. It has never worked,”
https://www.politico.eu/article/kaj...dimir-putin-russia-war-in-ukraine-peace-deal/
"Stench’ of Nazi appeasement hangs over Donald Trump Ukraine peace talks with Vladimir Putin"
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/wor...mir-putin-talks-end-ukraine-war-b1210798.html
 
Good to see someone else pick up on Thumwood's hate comments. This is not the first time.


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Can you please explain to me why criticism of Israel is hate speech? This is precisely the kind of comment that leads to the likes of Trump and Musk being elected.

I have not conflated the state of Israel with race. Cannot see how anyone of a right mind can support what Israel has done.
 
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The speed with which Trump and Musk have set about resetting world order will have some really bad consequences for America. I can see America becoming ostracised from much of Western Europe and the developed world such as Australia, New Zealand and Canada. The Americans have a dreadful reputation in the developed world.

I can see a situation where other countries start looking at other alliances and deciding to coordinate themselves against America. The ultimate beneficiary will be China.
 
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IOAG

Can you please explain to me why criticism of Israel is hate speech? This is precisely the kind of comment that leads to the likes of Trump and Musk being elected.

I have not conflated the state of Israel with race. Cannot see how anyone of a right mind can support what Israel has done.

Come on, Ian - there's a big difference between reasonable criticism of Israel and throwing out phrases like "routinely commits genocide".
 
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The speed with which Trump and Musk have set about resetting world order will have some really bad consequences for America. I can see America becoming ostracised from much of Western Europe and the developed world such as Australia, New Zealand and Canada. The Americans have a dreadful reputation in the developed world.

I can see a situation where other countries start looking at other alliances and deciding to coordinate themselves against America. The ultimate beneficiary will be China.

This I agree with - America is stupidly disposing of its soft power, which will open the way for the Chinese to step right in to that void. Which they will. Happily.