Do you agree that there is a point where it goes too far? Is there a point, for you, where the British taxpayers are being asked to pay for too many things that they shouldn’t be paying for? Or do you see the British taxpayers as cattle to be milked? Genuinely interested. As to me it seems like the British government can find a magic money tree to help absolutely everyone except British taxpayers
All of this is propaganda. We don’t even know how many people are in England. The water board and Tesco estimate that there are 650k-1mil extra residents just in London. The fact you believe we are accounting for all of the necessary costs is hilarious
You missed or ignored my post "Have to say much more could be done to make those aren't eligible for free treatment pay." I'll add it will take years to repair the damage done by the tories to public services across the board.
Can't find any reference to the extra residents in London? Could it be a cut and paste from Musk, Lowe, Farage or similar misinformationalists.
It’s true but I can’t be arsed to find the source. However, even if it’s not true and we take the official numbers as gospel; the insane population explosion in the last few decades means that the infrastructure is simply unable to cope. You can’t win this one. I’ve literally worked in hospitals all across the country and seen it all first hand.
I have just googled it and it is true you do not need proof of residency to register with a doctor. But there does lie a problem if you are an illegal. Once you register your name/adress etc is in the system. Something that an illegal immigrant etc probably doesn't want. As previously mentioned a number of times, asylum seekers aren't 'illegals' as they are in there system and seeking to be UK citizens. And to answer your other question, no I don't think the UK tax payer should be milked. I also think that the biggest waste of tax payers money is inefficiency and not 'illegals' or asylum seekers.
Not that simple though is it? Say you’re a low wage earner with a family and you wake up on the day of an appt with COVID/Flu symptoms? You could give this response to appeal a charge, but then it becomes the easy fix get out, as there’s no evidence either way
No surrender! It's not just the population but years of underinvestment in personnel and infrastructure as well you know. Come up with some real solutions your alledged experience should be able to provide instead of shrill hysterical unsubstantiated C&P one liners.
There's a safety net for low earners and emergencies such as covid/flu are exemptions. Charges are dealt with sympathetically and are seen as an incentive. No show numbers are falling, as the use of email/SMS reminders increases.
My solution is to bin off the NHS in its current form tbh. There are many small fixes but I came to the conclusion that the NHS is unsustainable when I worked in it. Either we limit migration and let the infrastructure catch up, or we have to privatise all healthcare. It’s impossible to have a social health service when the population is expanding by millions per year.
Interesting to see cost/benefits of system as it will take more NHS Admin, also difference is you have a payment Health system, ours is free Text reminder system is a no brainer
The UK population has only grown 13.8% in my life time. I imagine if this was all white people having babies there wouldn’t be an issue for some people.
So migration is your default cause when migrants are providing a large proportion of the workforce. "Recent NHS data shows that across all NHS staff in England (1.4 million), more than 17 per cent (264,815) are from overseas. Percentages for nurses are much higher – nearly 27 per cent of NHS nurses are from outside the UK (99,856 of the 372,605 nurses and health visitors recorded).8 Dec 2023" It's the criminal lack of investment given the population increase, changing age demographics, increasingly expensive treatments and of course the inefficiencies that need to be addressed. Limiting migration will do little to help if anything, as is widely reported, along with brexit has caused staff number to have dropped alarmingly. Your fixation with migration and privatisation have clouded your thinking.
The biggest criminal act was the removal of the bursary system for nursing degrees in 2017, leading to a 24% drop in applications for nurse training. We have always depended on immigrants to staff the NHS, ever since its inception in 1948. The Windrush generation from the West Indies, from the Commonwealth, and from the EU until 2020. Attacking the NHS has always been an obsession with conservatives of all persuasions. The finest achievement of humankind is a prime target for all those whose outlook is based on contempt for anyone worse off than themselves.
The below shows what happens when the NHS is properly funded. Destroying the NHS was deliberate and ably supported by those who kept them in power at the ballot box.
I think the government should strike a deal with wannabe nurses and doctors, giving them free training in return for a signed commitment that when their training reaches a certain level they will serve in the NHS for a set number of years, creating a conveyor belt of new recruits. I think this would work for dentists too. Train them and set them up in a surgery and use them to sort out the dentistry problems for a set period of time and then allow them to start introducing private patients alongside the NHS patients.
In fairness, this is the daily article that they put out of all papers, kind of like 'what the papers say', so it isn't necessarily the BBC view, but what the papers across the spectrum say https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0ew01p3rnxo
