And just a further note, Os, I'd do some reading about the Nakba: the forced dispossession and displacement of nearly a million Palestinians in 1948-1949 within the original territory of the Palestine mandate. Often brutally: rather than ask nicely, the Irgun tended to gently suggest that people leave their homes by indiscriminate bomb attacks on civilians until they fled. To ensure they couldn't return, they often poisoned wells. Cool stuff.
So whatever you think about historical Israel or shell games a person wants to play with Palestine's legal status, what is undisputed is that those people owned their individual properties. They had title to the land, and they were removed, with violence, and received zero compensation for their property. As someone who represents themselves as a staunch supporter of property rights, forcibly stripping hundreds of thousands of most/all of their worldly possessions (and leaving them as stateless internal refugees in the process) is something that I can't imagine you supporting.
I'm certainly not without sympathy for those that carried out the Nakba...most had lost family -- many almost all of their family -- in the Holocaust almost immediately prior, and like a lot of peoples who have experienced unthinkable trauma, their takeaway was that they had to be hard bastards to deal with a world of hard bastards, and securing their own survival required that they do so by any means necessary. I get it, really, I do. But it was still a crime against humanity, and that mentality is something I cannot support (and neither can you, from the looks, given that mentality is what fuels Hamas).
So whatever you think about historical Israel or shell games a person wants to play with Palestine's legal status, what is undisputed is that those people owned their individual properties. They had title to the land, and they were removed, with violence, and received zero compensation for their property. As someone who represents themselves as a staunch supporter of property rights, forcibly stripping hundreds of thousands of most/all of their worldly possessions (and leaving them as stateless internal refugees in the process) is something that I can't imagine you supporting.
I'm certainly not without sympathy for those that carried out the Nakba...most had lost family -- many almost all of their family -- in the Holocaust almost immediately prior, and like a lot of peoples who have experienced unthinkable trauma, their takeaway was that they had to be hard bastards to deal with a world of hard bastards, and securing their own survival required that they do so by any means necessary. I get it, really, I do. But it was still a crime against humanity, and that mentality is something I cannot support (and neither can you, from the looks, given that mentality is what fuels Hamas).
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