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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. StJabbo1

    StJabbo1 Well-Known Member

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    Only if you've got god on your side.
     
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  2. Schad

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    Can someone point out to Os that:

    i) that opinion piece is 8 years old.
    ii) it pre-dates Bezos' ownership.
    iii) it was written by Ian Morris, a British historian generally favoured by the sort of people that Os cheerleads, and:
    iv) for god's sake check your damned sources it took all of 30 seconds to Google the headline.
     
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  3. Gregm1988

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    I’m not 100% certain who you think Os cheerleads (as I expect they aren’t a homogeneous group). But I’d be prepared to wager the majority don’t have the first clue who Ian Morris is.

    Can’t argue with points 1,2 and 4 though. It is definitely an odd thing to post eight years later - at least with the Bezos context
     
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  4. StJabbo1

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    Re 3: I've not seen Os let the truth get in the way of a good story.
     
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  5. Le Tissier's Laces

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    That's eight years old, and pre-dates Bezos...so...
     
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  6. Osvaldorama

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    I genuinely wish I could be as naive as you. To blindly trust authority and government must be genuinely freeing.

    Unfortunately I am not naive and the reality is that most things that I have been warning against are rapidly coming to pass:

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    Once these precedents are set and normalised, do you really think governments will relinquish these powers?

    The ability to confiscate and freeze assets is as abhorrent as enforced vaccines for an aggressive flu virus.
     
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  7. Le Tissier's Laces

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    Os, what makes you think anyone is "blindly trusting authority and government" - as always, you're leaving absolutely no room for nuance. It would be like me saying that, with reference to your Washington Post story, you "blindly trust anything that backs up your opinions". Which, I hope, would be equally incorrect.
     
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  8. Gregm1988

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    Is that article by someone with a pseudonym of Tyler Durden? Or is it by Paul Joseph Watson? Seems odd to have two by-lines
     
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  9. StJabbo1

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    "enforced vaccines for an aggressive flu virus". You cannot be serious. Your lack of understanding of the difference is astonishingly mind boggling. Add naive to deluded and guliable.
     
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  10. StJabbo1

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    You do post some nonsense, naive blindly trusting of government, I don't think so. Have a look at the crime bill in it's final stages and the powers that gives the police. There's something to worry about.
     
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    Real difficult to see why the Baltics and Ukraine might have had some interest in joining NATO...
     
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    What a lying **** Boris is.
     
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  13. Schad

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    It's incredible how many overweight, middle-aged men believe that they're the absolute picture of health and virility.
     
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    Putin is sending troops into Donetsk and Luhansk after announcing that he recognises them as independent states. He says that his troops will keep the peace against Ukrainian aggression…
     
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    Pretty sure that is not how things work! Creative I guess
     
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  16. Osvaldorama

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    Very bad news. Closest to WW3 we’ve been in my life time I would suggest.
    Fingers crossed putin stops there and it’s just political posturing.
     
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  17. StJabbo1

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    John Crace's political sketch on the end of rules.
    https://www.theguardian.com/politic...s-johnson-needs-to-help-him-through-partygate
    "You couldn’t make it up. “Now was the time for personal responsibility,” said the prime minister with no sense of personal responsibility. His whole life has been conducted with a reckless disregard for other people. Boris Johnson is a man who has always done exactly what he wants, when he wants to do it, and has a trail of broken marriages and promises to prove it. When the rest of us mugs were doing our best to follow the letter of the rules that he made, he was busy enjoying himself at one party after another. And when he was caught, he didn’t have the decency to apologise. Instead he chose to brazen it out, cheapening himself and his party still further"

    I genuinely wish this doesn't come over as naive or blindly trusting authority and government genuinely freeing as that may be.
     
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  18. Osvaldorama

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    One of the sad parts is having read Putin’s speech, it truly shows how far western politicians have fallen.
    Propaganda though it may be, he speaks with an eloquence and intelligence that Boris & Biden could only dream of.

    I think one of the many reasons he has acted now is because of how weak our leadership is.
     
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  19. Le Tissier's Laces

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    100%. He’s helped bring that about though through sowing discord through the West with disinformation plays. He’s a horror, but he’s a very clever one.
     
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    He’s put a lot of time and investment to create just that situation.

    Without Russia there would have been no Brexit and no Johnson as PM.

    In America there would have been no Trump and although it was a shot in the eye for him that Biden won the presidency, he has proven a pretty ineffective leader who is failing to undo much of the damage from Trump, largely because of rebel democrats but still.
     
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