Any truth in this claim? Claim is that Johnson has a new mistress. Russian no less.
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Rumour has it that this is the subject of a "super injunction" - mind you, none of the Tory rags nor the beeb would ever say anything bad about old Spaffer .......
From a New Statesman review of Martin Amis' new book, about his friendship with Christopher Hitchens...
"You want rule by yobs," Amis describes telling Hitchens disapprovingly in...the 1970s. "Not just rule in their interests and in their name - but rule by yobs."
"That's it," Hitchens answers, with his equivocating smile:"I live for the day when the berks are finally in the saddle."
Though he didn't live to see it, Hitchens finally got what he wanted, on both sides of the Atlantic.
"You want rule by yobs," Amis describes telling Hitchens disapprovingly in...the 1970s. "Not just rule in their interests and in their name - but rule by yobs."
"That's it," Hitchens answers, with his equivocating smile:"I live for the day when the berks are finally in the saddle."
Though he didn't live to see it, Hitchens finally got what he wanted, on both sides of the Atlantic.
I hadn’t heard anything about that, but will keep an eye out for it in the future.
This is worth a read.
Interesting to see that one investigation at Company House, revealed 4000 company owners aged 2 or younger.
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...-corrupt-nation-earth-brexit-money-laundering
Interesting to see that one investigation at Company House, revealed 4000 company owners aged 2 or younger.
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...-corrupt-nation-earth-brexit-money-laundering
I was a frequent visitor to France when Mme Thatcher was on the throne. I was pretty much guaranteed a good reception whenever, responding to the inevitable question, I told my interlocutors exactly what I thought of her and her government.
I’m not sure the products at Aldi and Lidl could eat much worse than they already are. M&S do a great range of fresh produce and I think they, as well as Aldi and Lidl, have prepared in advance as their UK business kind of depends on it. It isnt like people haven’t been aware of the elephant in the room.
Do you not think that we can get products from other places, or dare i say it, produce our own? I thought we used to be quite effective in doing that many years ago.
I didn’t vote either way for Brexit, but i do feel where one door closes, others open, whilst others just complain about the colour of the door, why there was a door in the first place and who was to blame for shutting the door in the first place.
Produce our own?
Wow. So you'll be happy eating only root vegetables which we, just about, produce plus a few cabbages and brussel sprouts? Have you actually looked to see just how much we import from the EU in terms of fresh veg? Badger is in a good position to see this and what the effect is. The fact that you glibly say you didn't bother to vote in the advisory referendum makes my blood boil - it was people like you (and I'm trying to hold back worse ways of describing you) who blithely allowed the Farages and his manic followers to hijack it and not send them back to that dark place in which they should be locked up.
If a few more of the electorate had bothered to investigate the truth behind the rumours and put their "X" in the box marked "Remain", the country wouldn't be in the utter **** place we are now and the insanely rich wouldn't be rubbing their hands in glee at getting richer.
And don't you DARE say it was the "old people" who voted out ...............
Produce our own?
Wow. So you'll be happy eating only root vegetables which we, just about, produce plus a few cabbages and brussel sprouts? Have you actually looked to see just how much we import from the EU in terms of fresh veg? Badger is in a good position to see this and what the effect is. The fact that you glibly say you didn't bother to vote in the advisory referendum makes my blood boil - it was people like you (and I'm trying to hold back worse ways of describing you) who blithely allowed the Farages and his manic followers to hijack it and not send them back to that dark place in which they should be locked up.
If a few more of the electorate had bothered to investigate the truth behind the rumours and put their "X" in the box marked "Remain", the country wouldn't be in the utter **** place we are now and the insanely rich wouldn't be rubbing their hands in glee at getting richer.
And don't you DARE say it was the "old people" who voted out ...............
I think you're being way unfair here Dave.
You dont know the facts as to why I didnt vote, so not reasonable or nice to say I did anything "glib", or use the term "people like me, or holding back worse ways of describing me". Like you accuse me of not investing the facts, congrats cos you just did the thing you accuse me of. I mean, who do you think you are, and people like you, just raging at a keyboard making judgements, seriously, I thought you were better than that.
Your views are great if I'm you, which I'm not, and people are entitled to see things differently, your response to me is naturally coming from the side you voted for.
And Dave, WTactualF is your last bit about the old people who voted out
did you research that too, as I'd be interested in the social demographics of leavers by age.My father voted out, and yep he reads the Mail. Daily.
I was more furious the referendum was allowed to start with, then more furious still after May called a GE when she did.
I also believe that whilst it was voted to leave the EU, neither side came out clean in my eyes, as I knew would be the case, and we got our just rewards for allowing the media to rule the country, as it has for years. Now the decision is made, we need to get on with preparing for it.
Let's not fall out mate without knowing all the facts and circumstances
I think you're being way unfair here Dave.
You dont know the facts as to why I didnt vote, so not reasonable or nice to say I did anything "glib", or use the term "people like me, or holding back worse ways of describing me". Like you accuse me of not investing the facts, congrats cos you just did the thing you accuse me of. I mean, who do you think you are, and people like you, just raging at a keyboard making judgements, seriously, I thought you were better than that.
Your views are great if I'm you, which I'm not, and people are entitled to see things differently, your response to me is naturally coming from the side you voted for.
And Dave, WTactualF is your last bit about the old people who voted out
My father voted out, and yep he reads the Mail. Daily.
I was more furious the referendum was allowed to start with, then more furious still after May called a GE when she did.
I also believe that whilst it was voted to leave the EU, neither side came out clean in my eyes, as I knew would be the case, and we got our just rewards for allowing the media to rule the country, as it has for years. Now the decision is made, we need to get on with preparing for it.
Let's not fall out mate without knowing all the facts and circumstances
OK - sorry - I'm not having a good morning and I let myself go a bit there, apologies.
I've read all those remarks by the under 30s who have blamed "the elderly" for voting out (and, I think I've said before, I can understand someone voting out because they believed the lies about the £350 million a week to the NHS, but cannot accept that they still feel that way now they've seen it was a lie and we've now spent more money in the last 4 years than all the years we've been in the EU)
I will never forgive Cameron for starting it all and then ****ing off after he saw what he'd done, May & Corbyn for agreeing a GE when it was plain to see that the best way was to try and work out how the damage could be limited and the people who "couldn't be bothered to vote" (and, if that was the reason - and I'm not asking - then you should be ashamed). This country is now deep in the hands of the ERG and the ultra-right who control the media and line the pockets of the already ultra rich. We should be working together to get this shower out and ALL parties who oppose this government should come together and work to get them out.
The decision has been made, yes, but Spaffer and his cronies are busy making this country a laughing stock and an international pariah by their actions. And, of course, it's all being blamed on the nasty EU and Mr Barnier. It's like we've reinvented fascism and Oswald Mosley has been reincarnated. I wonder how long it will be until there are food riots due to absence of basics in the shops (I think the Christmas rush will have a different meaning this year) and the gammons all hit the streets blaming it all on the EU, people of different races, E.R., gays ......
I seriously worry about where we'll be this time next year, when football might become a complete sideline ...................
Ironic that Cameron called a referendum to outflank the far right populists, and now we have a far right populist government.
Thanks for your response, no apology needed, just dont want to fall out. Is everything ok today, happy to chat if you ever need an ear to listen to you.
Like you I'm concerned where we are heading, but heading to something we are.
Your part about cross parties is something in politics im greatly interested in, it could work much better rather than fighting so much to achieve very little, and this is one of the main reasons I dont vote (there are others but not going into them).
If that happens, I'd definitely vote.
BNP.
Just kidding
Produce our own?
Wow. So you'll be happy eating only root vegetables which we, just about, produce plus a few cabbages and brussel sprouts? Have you actually looked to see just how much we import from the EU in terms of fresh veg? Badger is in a good position to see this and what the effect is. The fact that you glibly say you didn't bother to vote in the advisory referendum makes my blood boil - it was people like you (and I'm trying to hold back worse ways of describing you) who blithely allowed the Farages and his manic followers to hijack it and not send them back to that dark place in which they should be locked up.
If a few more of the electorate had bothered to investigate the truth behind the rumours and put their "X" in the box marked "Remain", the country wouldn't be in the utter **** place we are now and the insanely rich wouldn't be rubbing their hands in glee at getting richer.
And don't you DARE say it was the "old people" who voted out ...............
It's an emotive subject, many myself included believe the 2016 referendum was fraudulent and the narrow majority was far to small for such a momentous decision.I think you're being way unfair here Dave.
You dont know the facts as to why I didnt vote, so not reasonable or nice to say I did anything "glib", or use the term "people like me, or holding back worse ways of describing me". Like you accuse me of not investing the facts, congrats cos you just did the thing you accuse me of. I mean, who do you think you are, and people like you, just raging at a keyboard making judgements, seriously, I thought you were better than that.
Your views are great if I'm you, which I'm not, and people are entitled to see things differently, your response to me is naturally coming from the side you voted for.
And Dave, WTactualF is your last bit about the old people who voted out
My father voted out, and yep he reads the Mail. Daily.
I was more furious the referendum was allowed to start with, then more furious still after May called a GE when she did.
I also believe that whilst it was voted to leave the EU, neither side came out clean in my eyes, as I knew would be the case, and we got our just rewards for allowing the media to rule the country, as it has for years. Now the decision is made, we need to get on with preparing for it.
Let's not fall out mate without knowing all the facts and circumstances
The lies and deceit of the leave campaign far outweighed those of the remainers. I can't be arsed to find and post details full fact and other sites have verifiable sources.
The 2019 election shouldn't have taken place, those that allowed it Labour, Lib Dems, the SNP and others provided the platform for Johnson and his oven ready deal to bring in a big majority. There isn't any parliamentary control, decisions are being made by a small group of rabid brexiteers in order to benefit few to the cost of many. Can only hope the misgivings of many over the latest reneging of agreements signed by Johnson will result in changes but the damage done to the country's reputation is done and all those negotiating trade deals will have taken note.
This latest engineered fallout with the EU has all the hallmarks of Pfeffel's own Reichstag Fire.
I'm a cantankerous old git but even I realised that to vote leave was insane.
What disturbs me most is that some people can tell you all the minute details of footballers, football clubs and matches and will argue for hours over stupid aspects of football such as the rules, the decisions and player performance over which they have no control but then can't be arsed to vote in an election or referendum which gives them a say and influence over the way our country is run. That is a rather ridiculous priority if you ask me.
What disturbs me most is that some people can tell you all the minute details of footballers, football clubs and matches and will argue for hours over stupid aspects of football such as the rules, the decisions and player performance over which they have no control but then can't be arsed to vote in an election or referendum which gives them a say and influence over the way our country is run. That is a rather ridiculous priority if you ask me.
No one asked, yet who said anything about football being a priority? It strike me some people on here make **** up to make their version more plausible. Again, people dont get the facts before being overtly critical of others if they didn’t vote.
It is more funny that the vast majority of “views” on here are from the people that lost out in the vote, as things didn’t go their way. Shame, if they approached discussions with a clear mind, without prejudicing the outcome of discussions, perhaps we could all learn more.
I’d have thought we get more rounded, tolerant and forgiving with age. Some perhaps do, others maybe have more venom in them - possible a result of how they lived their lives in the preceding years.
It is more funny that the vast majority of “views” on here are from the people that lost out in the vote, as things didn’t go their way. Shame, if they approached discussions with a clear mind, without prejudicing the outcome of discussions, perhaps we could all learn more.
I’d have thought we get more rounded, tolerant and forgiving with age. Some perhaps do, others maybe have more venom in them - possible a result of how they lived their lives in the preceding years.
I’ve certainly got more rounded with age. Not sure about tolerant or forgiving though.
I have more tolerance, and more forgiveness, but no where near enough of that.