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I can remember all of this lot being Tory Prime Ministers : Winston Churchill, Anthony Eden, Harold Macmillan, Alec Douglas-Home, Edward Heath, Margaret Thatcher, John Major, David Cameron and Theresa May and I didn’t like any of them very much. However I never loathed or hated any of them though, even Thatcher, as much as I abhor and detest this absolutely vile buffoon running our country now.

I remember a woman on the news when asked at the time of the election who she would vote for and why she said “Boris. He makes me laugh”. I said to the very lovely Mrs Godders:emoticon-0115-inlov she might as well vote for a clown then. The very lovely Mrs Godders:emoticon-0115-inlov replied “She is”.
 
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davecg69 said:
Yes, I agree, StB, but I can’t help feeling that, if the French government acted like this, the population would be rioting and making their views absolutely clear. The British voter basically does what the media tells him or her (mainly), hence the thumping great majority Pfeffel has. I can’t forgive Cameron for calling the referendum then running away, Corbyn and the Lib Dems for agreeing to a GE when they could have held firm and held this bunch of shysters more to account and the voters in those “red areas” who believed the media and gave them the opportunity to screw us all over. All I can hope for now is that there is karma and they get a bloody nose in a few years time. Sadly the opposition are busy tearing into each other and I wouldn’t be surprised to see the tories returned again. We MUST have PR and no more FPTP but I don’t see either of the main parties going for that as they know they’d lose seats.
Basically, to use a technical term, we’re ****ed ....... :emoticon-0121-angry
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Not a lot of love on this forum for us tory voters then.
 
Iain Dale complaining that Remainers won't give up. " Why can't we all get along?" He wails in The Express. Well I would have thought that would have been obvious you ball bearing headed Tory t**t!
 
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ChilcoSaint said:
Nearly £5 billion of the Covid-19 cash bailouts to businesses has gone to firms based in, or with links to, tax havens. Nice work, Rishi.
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/billions-loaned-to-firms-based-in-tax-havens/10/07/
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/billions-loaned-to-firms-based-in-tax-havens/10/07/

I suppose the thing that’s most worrying is that probably no one is surprised at stuff like this any more, so dystopian has the UK become.
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And it seems that some of these companies are still shelling out dividends to shareholders, whilst cutting jobs.
FFS, this is such a massive piss take.

https://www.vice.com/amp/en_us/arti...-and-paid-investors?__twitter_impression=true
 
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ChilcoSaint said:
Please answer one simple question. Name one tangible benefit that a no-deal Brexit, which has obviously been the plan all along, will bring to you and your family.
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He won't be able to do that, as there is no tangible benefit. I've asked and waited for months for my Brexiteer acquaintances to give me one benefit and, apart from "taking back control" (ie giving it all to unelected people like Cummings and the House of Lords), "immigration" (which won't change - in fact will get worse from non-EU countries because France, etc have no agreement to try and keep them so could move them all from Calais across the channel if they so wish) and the old chestnut, "we won, get over it", there is nothing they can say. I fear they and any tory voter is in for a massive shock next year - though the media will portray it as someone else's fault, obviously, and the lemmings will lap it up ..............
 
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davecg69 said:
Yes, I agree, StB, but I can’t help feeling that, if the French government acted like this, the population would be rioting and making their views absolutely clear. The British voter basically does what the media tells him or her (mainly), hence the thumping great majority Pfeffel has. I can’t forgive Cameron for calling the referendum then running away, Corbyn and the Lib Dems for agreeing to a GE when they could have held firm and held this bunch of shysters more to account and the voters in those “red areas” who believed the media and gave them the opportunity to screw us all over. All I can hope for now is that there is karma and they get a bloody nose in a few years time. Sadly the opposition are busy tearing into each other and I wouldn’t be surprised to see the tories returned again. We MUST have PR and no more FPTP but I don’t see either of the main parties going for that as they know they’d lose seats.
Basically, to use a technical term, we’re ****ed ....... :emoticon-0121-angry
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Massively agree with what you say about the GE it played straight into Cummings/Johnson hands and the lies, deceits and misleading statements that tories voters sucked up. The oven ready deal AKA the political statement signed by Johnson has been renaged on. Of course the EU negotiators are going to be pissed off and the lack of integrity noted by others a trade deal is being discussed with. A second conformentary referendum would have been likely with far greater scrutiny of campaign statements. As it is your technical term is absolutely correct, we are well and truly ****ed. Stuffed in oven ready terms.
 
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In the eighteen months leading up to the General Election YouGov conducted fifty polls in whether we were right or wrong to leave. The lowest majority for wrong was two per cent with the vast majority being in the five to ten per cent range. I just find it odd that a single poll, the one that counted, went the other way. It's just so odd that the likelihood that there was no extraneous influence is so small as to be discounted. This represents the biggest criminal conspiracy ever carried out on the UK population and the perpetrators need to be brought to book.
 
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It seems that the Peers in the House of Lords have been given an £18 per day pay rise. Well I guess they were struggling on a mere £305.

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An interesting read that suggests that an adviser to Liz Truss has made himself a small fortune from the PPE fiasco, with none of it being suitable for the NHS.
If this was happening in a third world country, with a socialist government, the Tories, their voters and the Tory media would be up in arms.
But because it is the Tory party, nothing is being done to stop the blatant cronyism, which is shameful.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1291244082145177600.html
 
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St Badger said:
An interesting read that suggests that an adviser to Liz Truss has made himself a small fortune from the PPE fiasco, with none of it being suitable for the NHS.
If this was happening in a third world country, with a socialist government, the Tories, their voters and the Tory media would be up in arms.
But because it is the Tory party, nothing is being done to stop the blatant cronyism, which is shameful.

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Truly astonishing. It beggars belief a) that they would do it, and b) that they thought they could get away with it. You can imagine the thought processes:

“Oh it looks like we have a pandemic to cope with. Where’s the plan?”
“Oh **** we never made one. What do we need to do?”
“We need lots of stuff, beds, linen, er, what else? Masks! Where do we get those? Andrew, didn’t you say you have a contact in China?”

And so it goes. The croneys line up to receive their handouts for stuff that isn’t the right type and will never be used. Vast sums of taxpayers money given to friends of government ministers for absolutely nothing. Sounds far-fetched? Read the thread, and especially, read the Court Bundle attached to it. I’m no lawyer, but the evidence is damning.

The whole ****ing bunch of them want lining up against the wall.
 
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ChilcoSaint said:
Truly astonishing. It beggars belief a) that they would do it, and b) that they thought they could get away with it. You can imagine the thought processes:

“Oh it looks like we have a pandemic to cope with. Where’s the plan?”
“Oh **** we never made one. What do we need to do?”
“We need lots of stuff, beds, linen, er, what else? Masks! Where do we get those? Andrew, didn’t you say you have a contact in China?”

And so it goes. The croneys line up to receive their handouts for stuff that isn’t the right type and will never be used. Vast sums of taxpayers money given to friends of government ministers for absolutely nothing. Sounds far-fetched? Read the thread, and especially, read the Court Bundle attached to it. I’m no lawyer, but the evidence is damning.

The whole ****ing bunch of them want lining up against the wall.
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Hopefully sir Kier reads it, and then challenges Boris and demands answers.
 
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Mark Steel’s take on the contracts scandal, nails it yet again:

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/coronavirus-face-mask-ppe-nhs-ear-matt-hancock-a9657631.html

“It could be a marvellous way to keep the economy moving in these difficult times, provided we're all allowed to advise the government to fork up some money. Local cafes that have only just been able to stay in business, for example, should be given the chance to advise the government that the safest way to protect NHS staff is to buy 70 million portions of egg and chips from their menu.
And even if the egg and chips turn out to contain no egg, and the chips are made of broken glass, never mind, because it means £252m has at least been handed out to someone, which should see them through to Christmas.“
 
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