Off Topic Pointless point-scoring thread

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  1. Hoopster67

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    Two handed shove in the back, never a penalty <rofl>
     
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    He kicked him on the ankles and tripped him up. Doubt he'd have got it for the push.
     
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    Oh they changed the rules have they, two handed shoves are ok? <laugh>
     
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    When the huns sell those duds, you can guarantee that the fee will be undisclosed.

    It's how the brotherhood works
     
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    Don't usually post articles from the Daily Record but this one's a cracker:


    Celtic boss Brendan Rodgers is no managerial mastermind and got lucky against Rangers - Barry Ferguson

    Barry isn't convinced last Sunday's 3-2 win was a masterclass from Rodgers everything ran for him.

    Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than good.

    Take last Sunday. A day when Celtic’s manager should have walked straight out of Ibrox along Paisley Road West and into the casino at Springfield Quay to stick a year’s wages on black.

    Because absolutely everything was coming up for Brendan Rodgers. (obviously he means apart from the two Rangers goals caused by defensive errors and having a player sent off)

    So please, leave me out of this theory that Graeme Murty was being schooled by some sort of managerial mastermind as Rangers lost to 10 men.

    That has been the talk amongst a lot of fans who are using this latest derby defeat as proof that Murty is in way over his head his against Rodgers and not up to the job of taking my old club back to the top.

    Excuse me, but what have these people been watching? If they can’t see the strides Rangers have made in a very short space of time under Murty then they don’t have a clue what they are talking about.

    And to use last Sunday as a stick to hit him over the head with is just a massive over-reaction to another painful result. I sympathise because I’m hurting too. I’ve been a Rangers man long enough to know winning means everything, especially on derby day.

    But I’ve watched the game again and keep coming back to the same conclusion – the only real difference between Celtic and Rangers on the day was a massive slice of good fortune. (that, and the fact we scored three goals and they only scored two, despite playing against 10 men for 35 minutes)

    Yes, Rodgers has taken all the plaudits because of the decisions he made in the second half. And who am I to disagree? (this whole article is about disagreeing with his decisions you ****ing retard)

    I take my hat off to the guy because, as a manager, he is different class.

    When he made the call to take off James Forrest and replace him with a striker, with his side down to 10 men and the game balanced at 2-2, it was incredibly brave and bold management.

    But what happened next was also incredibly lucky and he’s fortunate it all went his way because had Rangers won 3-2 it would have been him and not Murty who has spent the last week under fire.

    Why did he start with Dedryck Boyata and a back three when this was always going to be the most vulnerable part of his team?

    Why then change a midfielder for a striker with the game in the balance? (because it was a clever tactical decision based on the vulnerability of the Rangers defence)

    Rodgers would have had to find answers to some seriously difficult questions but he was spared from that because the gods were smiling on him. Had Sean Goss showed Odsonne Edouard down the outside – as he should have done – then the Celtic sub would have been unlikely to score the winning goal two minutes after coming on to the pitch.

    That wasn’t down to Rodgers being a genius, that was down to sheer luck.

    Long before that Rangers could have had the game wrapped up when they were by far the superior side.

    Had they taken one of their chances to make it 3-1 in the first half then I’m pretty sure Celtic would not have come back from it. (that's about six ifs and had they's so far)

    They got another break early in the game when Goss was too inexperienced to realise he had to take one for the team when the ball broke to Tom Rogic seconds before the Australian curled home Celtic’s first goal. Goss should have cleaned him out before he had a chance to line up his shot. (classy stuff, Bazza)

    Celtic got lucky again when David Bates had to be carried off right after the Rogic equaliser because the youngster has been Rangers best defender for some time now.

    I am absolutely certain Bates would not have got on the wrong side of Moussa Dembele seconds before half time the way his replacement Fabio Cardoso did – allowing Celtic to end the half on a huge high.

    There was another massive moment at the end of the second half when Alfredo Morelos missed an open goal from two yards out. On any other day he scores to level it up.

    I would even go as far as to say Rodgers got lucky again when Jozo Simunovic was sent off because, for as long as the game was 11 v 11, Rangers were the better side. (now we're approaching Follow Follow levels of zoomery)

    It was only after that moment Celtic really got to grips with the game and I know from experience how a match can change when one side goes down to 10 men. The decision gave Celtic a shot in the arm and created a siege mentality. (okay, we've gone beyond Follow Follow and we're now approaching David Leggat territory)

    Rangers didn’t react well to it at all. (maybe because Murty failed to make the right tactical decisions or substitutions? Just a thought)

    That was frustrating to watch because they should have been moving the ball quicker and using the whole of the pitch to tire their opponents and open Celtic up. That they failed to do that was another sign of inexperience and, yes, Murty has to take his share of the blame.

    But he will learn from it and so will his players.

    I agreed with every word he said after the game and I’m a bit surprised that he has retracted some of it. He wasn’t too harsh at all.

    Yes, all three of Celtic’s goals could have been avoided (both Rangers goals were a result of bad defending but we'll simply ignore that). Yes, Rangers could and should have played better after Celtic went down to 10 men.

    And yes, these players might just have missed the best ever chance to get one over on their old rivals.

    Murty was right on all points but that doesn’t mean that Rangers won’t recover and become stronger for it.

    What I see is a work in progress both on the pitch and in the technical area. These are inexperienced players working for an inexperienced manager. (the average age of their team on Sunday was older than Celtic's)

    But where Rangers are now compared to where they were under Pedro Caixinha is night and day. (they were eight points behind Celtic on the day Pedro was axed. They're now nine points behind)

    The manager and his players now need to regroup and bounce back quickly. By the time they head to Hampden to face Celtic in the Scottish Cup semi-final on April 15 their tails should be up again. (arrogantly believing that they will have won all their games between now and then)

    They should look back on Sunday and learn their lessons.

    But most of all, they should realise how far they have come together and how far the gap has been closed.

    What I saw was a Rangers side which no longer lives in fear of Celtic. I described the fixture as a boxing match and Sunday showed me Rangers are now confident enough to go toe-to-toe with their old rivals for the first time in a long time.

    The fact they were so disappointed on Sunday tells me this is a group of players who will be bursting a gut to put it right at Hampden.


    If you're wondering why Barry Ferguson has been a flop at every club he's been in charge of this article probably gives a good insight.
     
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    just a massive over-reaction to another painful result

    <laugh>
     
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    With the death of Stephen Hawkings, it leaves Barry as one of the few intellectual heavyweights of our time
     
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    I wont bother posting a link to the story (it's self-explanatory) but needless to say it's basically Walter being Walter. Spend, spend, spend! What could go wrong?
     
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    am i popping myself in by pointing out the article is from 2016?
     
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  19. Strange Nipples ST

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    I blame Clumps. Although I think he was using the picture to illustrate a point.

    Old Wally was in the paper a couple of days ago asking for the Rangers board to invest money in the team to catch Celtic. You know, like they did when he was manager. And then they died for some reason.
     
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  20. The Chaser going for #55

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    I think they died because Murray used a legal tax scheme that became illegal, then HMRC said "you now owe us £50m", then CW took over and didn't pay Tax or VAT so pushed up the amount owed to HMRC to £90m or thereabouts.
     
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