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[Boss]

If you believe, as many seem to, that the league position is solely down to the manager then Harry is deserving of adulation. Since there are so many other variables it doesn't seem right to me.

Very few managers would have got us 4th with players like Crouch, Defoe, Bassong, Huddlestone, Gomes etc and been able to create the type of team spirit needed to finish 4th. You (and others) mention players like King, Modric and Bale but that season Bale wasn't in the team all year, Modric had injury problems and the main players where the ones (called limited players) who performed for Redknapp.

Plus the team in his final season was his team, based around his style of management. Another manager may have clashed with Adebayor or after Modric wanting to leave would have punished Modric. Instead Redknapp got the best out of such players and welcomed Modric back into the team. These are the aspects which get overlooked as Redknapp was here for four years and had a massive influence on the club and left us in 4th, a position we're desperately trying to get back to.

 

[The RDBD]

I look at the squad of 2011-12, and the final third collapse only being one point better
than the season before (when the squad was weaker and Spurs still were in a UEFA
tournament) , and still cannot believe how Arry blew it so badly.

 

[Boss]

I look at the squad of 2011-12, and the final third collapse only being one point better
than the season before (when the squad was weaker and Spurs still were in a UEFA
tournament) , and still cannot believe how Arry blew it so badly.

Ferguson blew the title (losing it to man city) when they had a 8 point lead with 6 games left, that proves no matter how great a manager is then a team can lose from a position of strength. Just Redknapp was never given a chance to put things right, even though he deserved that chance based on his fours years of management and now (as I predicted) we won't get back into the top four for quite some time.

 

[The RDBD]

Fergie on several occasions rallied his troops when he was in the position of weakness.
The number of times he followed thru from a position of strength far outweighs the converse.


"Just Redknapp was never given a chance to put things right, even though he deserved that chance
based on his fours years of management"

On football alone, yes.
But his gob committed professional suicide (so the chance was rightly denied) .

 

[Boss]

Fergie on several occasions rallied his troops when he was in the position of weakness.
The number of times he followed thru from a position of strength far outweighs the converse.


"Just Redknapp was never given a chance to put things right, even though he deserved that chance
based on his fours years of management"

On football alone, yes.
But his gob committed professional suicide (so the chance was rightly denied) .

Wrongly denied as the club have gone backwards and no manager can achieve the league position Redknapp achieved and CL football.

 

[The RDBD]

"Wrongly denied"

Rightly denied, as you cannot have a gobby manager giving it all that (and
quite insensitively too) when they are not delivering on pitch what their chairman
expects of them.

 

[Boss]

"Wrongly denied"

Rightly denied, as you cannot have a gobby manager giving it all that (and
quite insensitively too) when they are not delivering on pitch what their chairman
expects of them.

Wrongly denied as this is about whats best for the club, and as a club we have gone from 4th, to 5th and now 6th and that "Gobby" manager will be the last spurs manager to get us Cl football for many years to come and while I hope someone can prove me wrong, being realistic we're no longer a club capable of finishing top four (unless others screw up).

 

[Hoddle is a god]

Wrongly denied as this is about whats best for the club, and as a club we have gone from 4th, to 5th and now 6th and that "Gobby" manager will be the last spurs manager to get us Cl football for many years to come and while I hope someone can prove me wrong, being realistic we're no longer a club capable of finishing top four (unless others screw up).

For the last time, please, Redknap did not "get us" 4th place.

A whole combination of factors came into play to ensure that occurred, not least of all the demise of 'Pool.

Redknap was in the right place at the right time. That is the start and finish of it.

 

[PowerSpurs]

Very few managers would have got us 4th with players like Crouch, Defoe, Bassong, Huddlestone, Gomes etc and been able to create the type of team spirit needed to finish 4th. You (and others) mention players like King, Modric and Bale but that season Bale wasn't in the team all year, Modric had injury problems and the main players where the ones (called limited players) who performed for Redknapp.

Plus the team in his final season was his team, based around his style of management. Another manager may have clashed with Adebayor or after Modric wanting to leave would have punished Modric. Instead Redknapp got the best out of such players and welcomed Modric back into the team. These are the aspects which get overlooked as Redknapp was here for four years and had a massive influence on the club and left us in 4th, a position we're desperately trying to get back to.

He did very well on the pitch, no-one is denying that. But he did not have a 'massive influence on the club'. I think only four of his signings played in the first team last year, he brought through almost no youth players. Apart from the league finishes he didn't move the club forward at all. Since he insisted that there was no DoF it is perfectly proper to give him the credit for the things that didn't happen as well as those that did.

And if I wrote "Levy has been here for 13 years, had a massive influence on the club, got us from mid-table to 4th, got us a world-class training facility and a plan for a new stadium" the same people who only look at the league position in judging Harry would find reasons to find all sorts of faults with Levy.

 

[The RDBD]

"Wrongly denied"

Rightly denied, as indulging managers who are not delivering is not "what's best"
for the club. If it was, AVB would still be manager of Spurs.

 

[Boss]

For the last time, please, Redknap did not "get us" 4th place.

A whole combination of factors came into play to ensure that occurred, not least of all the demise of 'Pool.

Redknap was in the right place at the right time. That is the start and finish of it.

You will have to forgive me for laughing off any view you have on football matters, you're better off using the same WUM script that you adjust each year for the mousers and gooners.

 

[Boss]

"Wrongly denied"

Rightly denied, as indulging managers who are not delivering is not "what's best"
for the club. If it was, AVB would still be manager of Spurs.

Wrongly denied as doing whats best for the club is having a manager who can finish in the top four, Redknapp is the only spurs manager to achieve this.

 

[The RDBD]

"Wrongly denied"

Rightly denied, as the last time Arry delivered a CL slot was 2 yrs prior to his sacking.
Onwards and upwards, not stagnation.

 

[Boss]

"Wrongly denied"

Rightly denied, as the last time Arry delivered a CL slot was 2 yrs prior to his sacking.
Onwards and upwards, not stagnation.

You have just caught yourself out as stagnation would only be a valid reason if the incoming manager can improve on the league position, instead we have gone backwards so that was you admitting Redknapp was wrongly sacked. I knew you would see sense in the end

 

[The RDBD]

"You have just caught yourself out"

Who mentioned league positions ?? I did state "CL slot" though.
Delivered once, failed to repeat the expectations thereof twice.
Strong possibility that would have become three times (if not rightly denied) .

 

[Hoddle is a god]

You will have to forgive me for laughing off any view you have on football matters, you're better off using the same WUM script that you adjust each year for the mousers and gooners.

Except that this is no wum.

Moreover, very few of the Spurs fans that I know and meet in real life thought that Redknap was our saviour. They agree with me, that he was merely the bloke who was in the right place at the right time.

 

[Boss]

"You have just caught yourself out"

I did state "CL slot" though.
Delivered once, .

Once more then any spurs manager in the PL era

 

[Boss]

Except that this is no wum.

Moreover, very few of the Spurs fans that I know and meet in real life thought that Redknapp was our saviour. They agree with me, that he was merely the bloke who was in the right place at the right time.

Are these the fans that hang about dodgy clinics?

 

[The RDBD]

"They agree with me, that he was merely the bloke who was in the right place at the right time."

Most sensible Spurs supporters I have discussed this with felt that :

1. the one CL appearance was as good as it was going to get for Arry
2. the excuses for failure came a bit too readily ( "punching above our weight" etc)

 

[Boss]

The one CL appearance was as good as it was going to get after sacking Arry.