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Nah it's obvious to anyone who wants to believe it's "dirty leeds at it again". The push might have been deliberate, but I guarantee he had no idea the potential for such a dangerous collision.

A booking was a harsh decision, only given because of the injury. Should have been a free kick and a slap on the wrist.

"Nah it's obvious to anyone who wants to believe it's "dirty leeds at it again". - That's one hell of a chip on your shoulder!
"I guarantee he had no idea the potential for such a dangerous collision." - And how exactly do you know that?
 
"Nah it's obvious to anyone who wants to believe it's "dirty leeds at it again". - That's one hell of a chip on your shoulder!
"I guarantee he had no idea the potential for such a dangerous collision." - And how exactly do you know that?

Because he's a 19 year old and he's not Michael Brown?

What sort of a cynical bastard do you have to be to believe a young player would go out of his way to injure another player in a game that's meaningless to his team?
 
Because he's a 19 year old and he's not Michael Brown?

What sort of a cynical bastard do you have to be to believe a young player would go out of his way to injure another player in a game that's meaningless to his team?

He did it, so he has to take responsibility for it. Neither you or me can read his mind, but the foul was premeditated as I originally said and the intent was to cause a potentially dangerous collision.
 
He did it, so he has to take responsibility for it. Neither you or me can read his mind, but the foul was premeditated as I originally said and the intent was to cause a potentially dangerous collision.

The intent was to put Anya on his arse so he could win the ball, that's it. I genuinely believe you're reading more into it than there is.
 
It was a foul, nobody is arguing that. You can't go shoving somebody over because you can't get the ball. But it happens all the time and it's not a booking because you can't foresee that kind of outcome.

The Watford fans were booing him for something he did by accident that he feels he doesn't deserve abuse for, because it wasn't malicious. It's only natural that he wants to get one back at the fans giving him, in his eyes, undeserved abuse. I personally like his tenacity for not letting the incident affect his game. He showed great mental strength in picking himself back up and then scoring the goal.

In all honesty, the way you Watford fans have demonised the poor lad I'd probably have rubbed in the goal as well. Never seen such a classless set of fans in my life, and I've seen Nottingham Forest fans blaming us for their player getting red carded for a two footed challenge.

Reality of the situation is that he could never have shown "humility" in your eyes unless he'd gone off sulking, feeling sorry for himself, and had a terrible game. You're all just bitter that Leeds didn't just roll over and let you win and get your time in the spotlight like you all expected us to.

A high foot can get you a red, and I admit Cassetti did have a high foot in that match, but it wasn't intentional. but the point is that maliciously dangerous play should be punished severely. What woud've happened if he got hit somewhere else, like the throat, and then he could've died.
 
Ok people, this is not a thread for debate, this is a thread for play offs! I created a thread for debate on the leeds forum...
 
The intent was to put Anya on his arse so he could win the ball, that's it. I genuinely believe you're reading more into it than there is.

As I say anyone can watch the video and judge what direction and how violently Poleon pushed the defender.
 
I honestly don't know whether they can or can't play but as they are both domestic loans I would expect the rule to be the same. Why do you think loanees cannot play in the play offs - it is still technically part of the season

Hodson is playing for Brentford in the play-offs so I think that domestic loans will be able to play.
 
A high foot can get you a red, and I admit Cassetti did have a high foot in that match, but it wasn't intentional. but the point is that maliciously dangerous play should be punished severely. What woud've happened if he got hit somewhere else, like the throat, and then he could've died.

The high foot, the elbow, any of the challenges made by your own players that were worse have been glossed over. If they've been mentioned, it's been fleetingly. If Poleon deserved a red for a push that is not typically dangerous that unfortunately caused an injury, then any of those other challenges definitely deserved a red and we'd have been 10 leeds players vs 7 watford players or something like that.

The most irritating thing about this whole situation is the "we were robbed" attitude of your fans, demonising Poleon for costing you a shot at the big time when in reality your team were very lucky to finish the game with 10 men and your own side bottled it.

Putting your foot high when you can see a player going for a header, that's serious foul play. His foot clattered into Varney's head, nothing given, yet I don't see your fans whining about your own player putting himself in that dangerous position, it still all comes back to "Poleon should have been off and we should have had an easy time". At least with Poleon a lack of intention lets him off the hook, a high foot is against the rules, the player knows it is against the rules, and going in for a challenge like that when you can clearly see the player - it was intentional. He intended to get the ball through a dangerous challenge, it's serious foul play and it's a red card offence.

There were several of these incidents in the game, all of them accountable to Watford players, and the excuse for every one of them is "it was an accident". A high foot into somebody's face is not an accident, just keep your sodding foot down. A high foot is always dangerous, a push in the back is rarely dangerous. That is how you determine if a challenge is dangerous play. Is it dangerous in normal circumstances?

Your post relieves Cassetti of any responsibility for that high challenge which was, by the law of the game, serious foul play, and then implies again that Poleon made a "malicious" challenge, a challenge that is rarely dangerous and by the laws of the game cannot be considered serious foul play. As many have said, he'd have had to have had snooker player like precious to be able to maliciously intend to take both players out. The intent was clearly to simply put Anya on his arse and give himself a better chance of getting the ball, and it goes no further than that. It's not surprising that none of us Leeds fans have any respect for your opinion on this matter when in the same post you acquit a player who made a dangerous high challenge (that could have easily seriously injured Luke Varney) of any responsibility, then demonise a young player for a nudge that resulted in an injury that only clairvoyants and Dr Who could know about. It's double standards. Ignore the outcome and you see Cassetti's challenge is dangerous and predictably dangerous, Poleon's is not. Red card for Cassetti, free kick and a slap on the wrist for Poleon. Those are the rules of the game, and that is how the rules should remain.
 
Considering it Yorkie. I will see how it goes tonight.

I thought of requesting it but was afraid a certain person might then hijack another thread as he seems to be posting on at least three here. Dan if you are able to prevent him posting there and turning that one into another slanging match it would be helpful - thanks
 
The high foot, the elbow, any of the challenges made by your own players that were worse have been glossed over. If they've been mentioned, it's been fleetingly. If Poleon deserved a red for a push that is not typically dangerous that unfortunately caused an injury, then any of those other challenges definitely deserved a red and we'd have been 10 leeds players vs 7 watford players or something like that.

The most irritating thing about this whole situation is the "we were robbed" attitude of your fans, demonising Poleon for costing you a shot at the big time when in reality your team were very lucky to finish the game with 10 men and your own side bottled it.

Putting your foot high when you can see a player going for a header, that's serious foul play. His foot clattered into Varney's head, nothing given, yet I don't see your fans whining about your own player putting himself in that dangerous position, it still all comes back to "Poleon should have been off and we should have had an easy time". At least with Poleon a lack of intention lets him off the hook, a high foot is against the rules, the player knows it is against the rules, and going in for a challenge like that when you can clearly see the player - it was intentional. He intended to get the ball through a dangerous challenge, it's serious foul play and it's a red card offence.

There were several of these incidents in the game, all of them accountable to Watford players, and the excuse for every one of them is "it was an accident". A high foot into somebody's face is not an accident, just keep your sodding foot down. A high foot is always dangerous, a push in the back is rarely dangerous. That is how you determine if a challenge is dangerous play. Is it dangerous in normal circumstances?

Your post relieves Cassetti of any responsibility for that high challenge which was, by the law of the game, serious foul play, and then implies again that Poleon made a "malicious" challenge, a challenge that is rarely dangerous and by the laws of the game cannot be considered serious foul play. As many have said, he'd have had to have had snooker player like precious to be able to maliciously intend to take both players out. The intent was clearly to simply put Anya on his arse and give himself a better chance of getting the ball, and it goes no further than that. It's not surprising that none of us Leeds fans have any respect for your opinion on this matter when in the same post you acquit a player who made a dangerous high challenge (that could have easily seriously injured Luke Varney) of any responsibility, then demonise a young player for a nudge that resulted in an injury that only clairvoyants and Dr Who could know about. It's double standards. Ignore the outcome and you see Cassetti's challenge is dangerous and predictably dangerous, Poleon's is not. Red card for Cassetti, free kick and a slap on the wrist for Poleon. Those are the rules of the game, and that is how the rules should remain.

A high foot that is going to endanger someone is a foul, which you have correctly mentioned. The part I have highlighted contradicts that as if it was just a high foot (without an additional caveat that seems to be the implication), there'd be no goals scored with overhead kicks. I could take it to the nth degree and refer to other aspects of the game, but that's for the IFAB to decide.
 
I thought of requesting it but was afraid a certain person might then hijack another thread as he seems to be posting on at least three here. Dan if you are able to prevent him posting there and turning that one into another slanging match it would be helpful - thanks
That was my prefered action, but I need reason to ban him from the board. We have laughed off WUMs before, so cant we do it now. If we cant then I will request a ban from the powers that be.
 
You have only given us 2000 tickets and vice versa

Pretty poor from both clubs

You lot wouldnt let us discount tickets for STH's though which is bad. Both teams have handled tickets pretty poorly by the sounds of things