you posted a video about nigga being hot.
don't need to work anything out. You think you are clever. I like you very much, but please, let's not do this.
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don't need to work anything out. You think you are clever. I like you very much, but please, let's not do this.
Mate, it was a black bloke singing about being a black bloke
Nothing more, nothing less.
If it was a white bloke singing about being a nigga it would be inappropriate, hence me asking why you even needed to question it
Mate, it was a black bloke singing about being a black bloke
Nothing more, nothing less.
He was a nigga, that was my whole point.
so nigga singing about nigga is ok?
Yes mate.
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so we have it right there
nigga calling nigga ok?
white man calling them nigga not ok?
nor black
nor coloured.
you'd make the worlds ****est politician, as you don't even have a TV... So **** off Ponkie..Bored with your little moss crusade and nigga songs......Where is hiag, even he was more interesting.
No mate.
A white man describing somebody as black isn’t a problem. A white man calling somebody a nigga is.
If you really need this explaining to you then I can’t fkin help you mate.
Maybe, I'm just being honest and not pretending that I know it all about a complicated subject. I think it's quite simple though and even in the context of music the word should not be used like it is by white or black people.Lol Luv, that's a proper old man comment
The context of the song is key though and that's what I mean about the UK grime scene really getting it wrong.
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Well a lot of the grime scene and dancehall, bashment etc seems to be about money, pussy, drugs and beef. Some folk don’t like it, but I guess people sing about what they know right ?
I don’t really think it’s any white person’s place to tell a black man that he can’t use the word nigga though. Especially in a song.
It is contextual, and there’s a whole historical context of oppression and racism there, a word that’s been reclaimed by black people.
For me, if that bothers a white person. They need to understand that it’s not really their place to dictate on that issue.
Watching something the other day, a fella (white guy as it happens) was arguing that children aren’t born knowing any words, and if black folk want the N word to disappear from non-black people’s vocabulary then they need to lead by example. They’re the ones prolonging the life of this by using the word as a term of endearment.
I couldn’t agree more tbh, but not sure how you’d rid the world of it for at least 100 years given music legacy etc.
Is there any words other than this which nobody apart from one specific skin colour to religion or whatever is allowed to say?
It won’t be long before the woke attempt to ban white folk from playing MOBO in public places and then you’ve gone full circle, and in 2185 a brave white man called Ross Parks will sit in a park playing his favourite NWA tracks and start a revolution.
It doesn't bother me at all, I just think that when used to describe themselves as bad people it does more harm than good, the US went through that with Gangsta rap and look at how many of those artists changed with age and perspective.
The genie is out of the bottle though, so you can't put it back.
I just think it comes down to context. If it's being used in a derogatory way, then it rightly needs calling out.
A black man referring to his homie as 'ma nigga' in a song, is fine imo and is simply a representation of his culture.
I don't think you can censor a whole community, based on the fact that it offends somebody else.
True, but that's just the music reflecting real life. Gangsta rap was/is just an expression of the what was happening on the streets.
Like I said, people just sing about what they know.
Most of us mellow with age, and with the wisdom of self reflection, we gain a different perspective on life. But for me, that doesn't make what they were rapping about in their 20's any less valid.
Doesn't make it less valid and I get that they are rapping about what they see but they often referred to themselves as the problem and were derogatory in their message about human life and women all while describing themselves as niggas. So the word was not used to empower but to further the thinking of racist people.
I agree the glorifying of violence and misogyny etc is problematic.
I think that's a separate issue to the use of the word nigga, but wrapped up in the same song, yes it complicates the issue.