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TIGERSCAVE

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Based on the fact that for years now, money has been spunked on a playing surface that during and post winter is not fit for purpose and that money could be better used elsewhere, plus the fact that it seems part of the problem is the stadium needing turning 90 degrees to help with the problem.... plus the fact that it doesnt allow us perhaps to be as creative at home as we are away on better surfaces (sorry long sentence) ....

I'm just watching Livingstone v Rangers, ive actually watched a couple of their games lately... and their astro turf looks like a very fair surface. Now if they bought a cheaper version based on available funds and we bought a better version would that be sacrilege. Would it allow for better football. Would 'we' then have the advantage of playing on it regularly at home ](better home results) and would it mean less injuries...?
 
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SW3 Chelsea Tiger said:
They wouldn’t be able to play rugby on it either…..imagine the friction burns from diving / tackling on it
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Saracens installed an astro turf pitch in 2013. Newcastle Falcons have just installed one. I believe there are others.
If we return to the PL we would have to play on either a grass one or a hybrid, like Man City and Wembley for example, as astroturf 3g ones are not allowed.
 
Hybrid football pitches consist of 100% natural grass reinforced with millions of synthetic fibres (often 5% artificial, 95% natural) injected 20mm–65mm into the rootzone. They provide the high-performance feel of real grass with enhanced durability, stability, and up to 3x more playing hours than traditional turf. Common in elite stadiums (e.g., Premier League, FIFA World Cup), they offer better performance in wet conditions.

Clubs including Aston Villa, Chelsea, Crystal Palace, Liverpool, Leeds United and Nottingham Foresthave all installed SISGrass Hybrid systems at stadiums or training grounds.

Beyond the top flight, SIS Pitches’ technology is also being adopted across the EFL and non-league football, with recent installations at Birmingham City, Wrexham, Derby County, Wycombe Wanderers, Stevenage, Mansfield, Colchester United, Swindon Town, Notts County, Stockport County and Hednesford Town.

Typically a hybrid pitch would cost around £500,000 to £1.5m to install. The price varies depending on multiple factors which include the size of the pitch, sporting regulations, drainage and irrigation, the hybrid style (stitched, carpet or lay & play).
 
TIGERSCAVE said:
Hybrid football pitches consist of 100% natural grass reinforced with millions of synthetic fibres (often 5% artificial, 95% natural) injected 20mm–65mm into the rootzone. They provide the high-performance feel of real grass with enhanced durability, stability, and up to 3x more playing hours than traditional turf. Common in elite stadiums (e.g., Premier League, FIFA World Cup), they offer better performance in wet conditions.

Clubs including Aston Villa, Chelsea, Crystal Palace, Liverpool, Leeds United and Nottingham Foresthave all installed SISGrass Hybrid systems at stadiums or training grounds.

Beyond the top flight, SIS Pitches’ technology is also being adopted across the EFL and non-league football, with recent installations at Birmingham City, Wrexham, Derby County, Wycombe Wanderers, Stevenage, Mansfield, Colchester United, Swindon Town, Notts County, Stockport County and Hednesford Town.

Typically a hybrid pitch would cost around £500,000 to £1.5m to install. The price varies depending on multiple factors which include the size of the pitch, sporting regulations, drainage and irrigation, the hybrid style (stitched, carpet or lay & play).
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It is already a hybrid pitch at the mkm... Was done two years ago. It's the same turf and company that Bristol used for their teams. The issue is clearly with the weather and position of the stadium.
 
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Heimdallr said:
It is already a hybrid pitch at the mkm... Was done two years ago. It's the same turf and company that Bristol used for their teams. The issue is clearly with the weather and position of the stadium.
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Don’t they have rain in Bristol?
 
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I don't buy this stadium orientation reason. Some of the larger stadiums would receive little direct sunlight and I'm sure few of the traditional grounds will have ideal orientation. The club must have spunked millions
 
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Cityzen said:
Well, if the weather is a problem Bristol would have a problem as well. So it isn’t the weather that is the main problem.
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Hasn't Hull gone from the driest summer on record to one of the wettest winters?

Or do you think that the company that laid the pitch intentionally did a worse job than in Bristol...
 
Heimdallr said:
Hasn't Hull gone from the driest summer on record to one of the wettest winters?

Or do you think that the company that laid the pitch intentionally did a worse job than in Bristol...
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It has been wet in Bristol. Maybe the pitch wasn’t laid as well. Perhaps their drainage is better. Maybe the orientation of the ground is not the best. Bad weather is not unique to Hull. The pitch has been poor since we moved into the MKM. But it is no excuse for performances. Other clubs have worse pitches and we have played well on those.
 
Heimdallr said:
Hasn't Hull gone from the driest summer on record to one of the wettest winters?

Or do you think that the company that laid the pitch intentionally did a worse job than in Bristol...
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Something is amiss because it has been a Quarter of Century having a really poor pitch .
 
HHH said:
Obviously can't say it's gospel, but been plenty of chatter to suggest our groundsman are ****e.
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Given the recent messing with the nets causing a delayed kick off and prior to that not being able to get the pitch perimeter fit for play causing a postpoment 15 mins before kick off I would suggest that chatter has some substance.
 
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