Personal attacks are wrong but passions run very high during a match for players and true fans, both over step the mark from time to time.
when did i say you were KKK or a racist? never. I just dont see the difference in abusing someone personally for being fat or insulting them for being black. both are wrong, but you only get arrested for one of them. I am a manager and consultant in a large IT firm, and by most people standards have a very good salary - but no where in my job description does it say "take personal insults and get on with it" - and Bruce earning 40k a week (or whatever) shouldnt have to take it either.
You are very much suggesting that if he was black I'd use this disgusting emotive language? I resent that statement completely. Bruce is fat, hes a geordie and he has a squashed nose. To say piss off you fat, big nosed geordie bastard isn't illegal nor is it racist, its descriptive.
I always cringed at the Geordie chants aimed towards Ashley. Not because they wanted him out but the "fat cockney b******" line. I remember thinking to myself how much better we were than that, however now we appear to be just like them. I have never shouted for Bruce's head but like most I am becoming increasingly in favour of a change. We are playing poorly and need to act, however I will never lower myself to spouting such poisonous abuse at anyone. You may well think such things are simply "name calling" and don't cause any harm. Maybe you wouldn't take offence and maybe the money would cushion such abuse. But whether he is offended or not doesn't take away from the fact that it is simply wrong to subject anyone to this. Lets not listen to this bollocks that Bruce is an undercover Geordie trying to screw us up. He is a thoroughly decent man who is desperate for us to succeed. Unfortunately he increasingly looks like he wont be able to do this and may well lose his job but come on fellas, lets show that we don't follow to the standards of our Geordie neighbours.
And Bingo!!! Being black can also be used as a descriptive, but you are not allowed to do so as it is racist. why should "fat" be any different? If you abuse fat people, or ginger people (for example) then you a abusing an entire group of people based on one physical characteristic. Thats wrong, and I cant see how you can defend it. I asked if you would say stupid black ni**er if he was black, I did not say you would
I don't give one **** about him or what anyone calls him anymore. I just want him out. As far as I'm concerned, it's justified.
Time to take a step back lads, it's getting daft.. Ok maybe some of the abuse towards Bruce was un-called for but let's not get carried away, it's not sunday school. More of a...[video=youtube;20qZtnODB0w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20qZtnODB0w[/video]
Shouting personal abuse is out of order, chanting for the manager to be sacked is fair comment but personal abuse is wrong. What does that say about us as fans? What would any prospective future manager be thinking?
Totally agree with the OP: calling for someone to leave is one thing, but the personal abuse was a disgrace in my eyes..
Another moron who tars everyone with the same brush!!!! I work in banking and I can asure you that I am a long way off being wealthy - I am also being made redundant 5 days before xmas. So be sure of your facts before spouting total f*cking pish. Bart
Sorry to hear that Bart but I would hazzard a guess that Moorsley meant the men at the top that **** things up & give themselves millions in bonuses while the taxpayers bail them out. The last time Sunderland were relegated half the employees lost their jobs. All the low paid ones.
Chunks = most people think anyone who works for a bank gets paid a mint, and we are all to blame for the economic mess we are in. I get this f*cking sh7t every f*cking day, from morons who should know f*cking better. There are people leaving my bank to work for F*cking Asda and F*cking Tesco coz they pay more - good people anarl. The world has gone f*cking mad, I tell ya. Bruce Out!!! Bart PS - got fixed up on Saturday night in Edinburgh, so everything in the world is not bad
exactly - I felt ashamed to be a Sunderland supporter on Saturday - it reminded me of the mags with Ashley and I thought we were better than that - what the players or a prospective new manager thought about it is anyones guess
Who are you going to get that's going to turn the shower of average players into top half players overnight? the fact is if you win a couple of games on the bounce you wil still have a chance of 10th again. Your're all just pissed of about NUFC doing ridiculously well.
Darren Bent could be gleefully abused at the SoL the other week after he saved SAFC from relegation with his priceless 24 goals. So tell me please - what the hell does Bruce deserve? Jesus, this 'lame-excuse-for-Bruce' scene gets truly obscene at times. That man deserves 100% worse treatment than Bent received and no excuses for him are acceptable.
