Parker - I wonder....

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typical

typical

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The bogs in bluewater
i was watching the Fulham game and was thinking if I should maybe forgive and forget Judas Ratboy's treachery, After all it was over ten years ago and since then his career really did not progress how it should have , and maybe he will be haunted in the knowledge that by sitting on a bench at Chelsea during his peak, knowing that lesser midfielders played tournament football for England was perhaps the worst decision of his life.

I then thought of Poyet. Another bonehead move. As if he is going to get into the West Ham side. The best thing that kid can do now is move.

I wonder if they would swap their silver to stay at Charlton given their time again?
 
I forgave Parker after his goal for Newcastle infront of the covered end, we gave him so much stick and he pinged it in from 30 yards. Fair enough, but then he ran to the Newcastle fans to celebrate rather than do it infront of us, ever since then I hold no ill will towards Scott. Although I'd adament if he had stayed that season we'd have finished in Europe.

Poyet I thought would have got a game at West Ham, least 15 games this season, but now they have Alex Song I just can't see it happening, he'll be loaned out in Jan.

I think Parker learnt a lot at Chelsea, mainly that game time is more important than money, Poyet, we'll have to wait to find out.
 
The big difference between Poyet and Parker is that we got £10m for the latter.

Whatever the rights and wrongs of the club dithering on Poyet's contract, the way he departed having been voted POTY left a bad taste in the mouth.
 
Parker is my favorite all time player, and though at the time I was gutted he left, I couldn't hold it against him. He had a chance to win titles and play in the champions league. With Roman still getting his feet under the table too, they were so aggressive in their approach and wouldn't take no for an answer, and from the opening bid we got double the money.

His Chelsea career isn't always remembered accurately. He was forced out on to the right were he had a decent start, scoring in his first or second game. Come the summer when ranieri was sacked, he missed the pre season with an ankle injury that would keep him out for a large part of the season. With that, mourinho had two transfer windows where he spent, and that was it.

But he's had a good career. Injuries didn't help at Newcastle either but he consistently had the best tackle rate in the premiership, won the Writers player of the year and voted in to the team of the year by fellow pros. He should have played more for England, but was still always in and around the squad - even having the armband once. His combined transfer values stands at over 25 million.

I don't think he'll be dissapointed with how it turned out. Though with his mentality I wouldn't be surprised if he thought/thinks he can do more.
 
I really don't have a problem with Scotty Parker leaving us for Chelsea for 10 M. It was the right time, for him, to move on to bigger and better things. I find a lot of Charlton supporters hypocritical in the abuse they gave to Parker on Friday. What person wouldn't want to move to a bigger Club and also get paid more money?

Parker always gave 100 per cent for us each and every game. He has been one of the stand out players for us and I thank him for his effort. Giving him dogs abuse doesn't help us and it is no coincidence that he ups his game and ends up scoring. I remember the goal he scored for Newcastle at the Valley. Next time he plays against us we should ignore him.
 
Parker (or his agent) went to the papers to say that Curbs had gone back on a promise to let him go whenever a top 3 club came in for him. Curbs did not reply at the time, but later revealed that what he had actually said was that if Parker left Charlton he should go to ManU, Arsenal or Liverpool. Chelsea's initial offer was £5m spread over several years, which was taking the piss in a big way, and that figure crept up gradually to £10m. Parker also claimed that Murray had told him he could go, although Murray was out of the country at the time. Maybe Parker genuinely misunderstood what Curbs said to him, but going to the papers was out of order. Not as out of order as Chelsea's behaviour though, and that, coupled with the infamous "desert", is why I loathe and detest Chelsea to this day. I don't booo Parker, after all he went to the same school as my kids.
 
I cant stand the little dirtbox. Aside from peddling Mcdonalds, wearing outrageous oversized ties and being a pretentious plank, he never said sorry, we made that kid, we nurtured and cared, he stabbed us in the back for a few quid. | find solace in the fact that he could have been a better player perhaps even a great international, but now he will be a John Barnes, a Trevor Francis and all the Paul Smith suits in the world wont make up for the stain of silver on his greedy little clubbed fingers.
 
All those true stories of his commitment get flushed down the pooper for me, when you hear how he sat in his car sulking for two days and refused to face Curbs after putting in his transfer papers and getting his agent to say that he wont ever play for CAFC again.

He is no 3 on my 'reasons why CAFC went so wrong' given that Dowie is no 4 and Rick Everett is no 5 gives an indication of his culpability in our down fall.
 
He got an offer from a bigger club, he wanted to go, in the end we got 10 M. Typical, if a bigger Company came and offered you better prospects and a much bigger salary would you take it? He owed no loyalty to Charlton, it is a short career and you have to do what is best for you.
 
Dick, only last week, I was offered double my salary, my own toothbrush and pick to clean the poles, and wipe the booth windows clean in Madam Spankies but I refused and stayed loyal to my employers 'Rough as fack- escorts' because

a) they took me on as a kid
b) they managed my career perfectly, my performances were improving week in week out and I was being noticed at the top level of spurge cleaning.
c) they sent me out on loan to Norwich when I needed it
u) we had a gentleman's agreement to get the best deal for the club
e) I would not be sold to the club one place below us at the time
f) I would not sulk and bitch and derail an fairytale season for my own needs
g)I would honour an agreement that I made to leave six months later
T) I would not hide behind an agent and tell my manager to his face
o) I would not stab the fans that had worshipped me and at least I would write a letter to the fanzine in response to my treachery
p) I would rather be a better payer than a richer one.
 
If I'd been sent by my employer on loan to the Norwich branch of 'Rough as Fack Escorts' then I would have been looking for a new job a lot sooner.

I agree with Super's revisionist view; obviously it hurt at the time but it's done now. He's had a good career, and he's still one of the best (if not the best) players I've seen in a Charlton shirt; Typical, can you honestly say that you wasn't a little bit proud when he was England's best player at EURO 2012?

I will accept that he is a bit of a dick, but in footballing terms he is forgiven.
 
typical said:
Dick, only last week, I was offered double my salary, my own toothbrush and pick to clean the poles, and wipe the booth windows clean in Madam Spankies but I refused and stayed loyal to my employers 'Rough as fack- escorts' because

a) they took me on as a kid
b) they managed my career perfectly, my performances were improving week in week out and I was being noticed at the top level of spurge cleaning.
c) they sent me out on loan to Norwich when I needed it
u) we had a gentleman's agreement to get the best deal for the club
e) I would not be sold to the club one place below us at the time
f) I would not sulk and bitch and derail an fairytale season for my own needs
g)I would honour an agreement that I made to leave six months later
T) I would not hide behind an agent and tell my manager to his face
o) I would not stab the fans that had worshipped me and at least I would write a letter to the fanzine in response to my treachery
p) I would rather be a better payer than a richer one.
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Well you are a better man than me Typical. I worked for a Company for 23 years, worked all hours including seven days a week over a whole summer. I turned a department that was under performing into one that did a very good job. I devoted a lot of sweat and tears into this place and they rewarded me by making me redundant. I was in the office for about a minute for every year I had worked there. The reason they gave was that the department was working so well that they didn't need me anymore.

You have to do what is best for you. Because a Company wouldn't think twice about s**tting on you from a great height.
 
Dick I am sorry to hear about that, and I hope you stole a typewriter at least.

But your missing the point. The relationship and deed of trust that was broken was between Scrott and us, me, you, the fans, the club are unimportant in this, my closing argument. I am not getting all sentimental and mills and boon but he owed us 6 months. We were not worth that to him, in exchange for the 10 years we gave him. I could not care less about Chelsea, money, future, he was on a rollercoaster, he was having the season of his life, he was the next big thing. Then he facked it up. He got greedy and some oily, slag of an agent whispered in his ear.

He never explained, said sorry, or gave anything more than a scripted thanks. He forced our hand, he acted like my missus when I wee in the sink, I'm not talking to you, Im not doing this etc... He could have been a man about it.

Was I proud of him at the Euros, Kish? - No not really. He was dead to me by then.
 
dickplumb said:
You have to do what is best for you. Because a Company wouldn't think twice about s**tting on you from a great height.
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Amen and as most of you are younger than me (and possibily DP), take that as the truth, I've seen it more than a few times in my working life and I guess it'll become more prevelant as time goes by.
 
Parker has always come across in interviews (& according to Curbs) as an authentic family man....unlike people such as Beckham, Rio Ferdinand & John Terry, who have tried to milk their so called family values to earn a few quid, whilst scoring away from home far more often that they ever did on the football field.
 
Yep - football clubs are just as loyal as the men they employ.

If Parker had an awful season the following year, his value dropped dramatically and another club came calling - he'd be sold pretty much against his wishes. They're both as bad as each other.

Danny Murphy - now he was a scum bag.
 
His reasons for leaving, as told to Curbs, were that he wanted to win trophies, compete in the Champions' League, and get into the England team. If he genuinely did move for these reasons he hasn't had a good career at all. If on the other hand he moved for the money, he's had a good career. The real villains of the piece were Chelsea. It wasn't long after that there were squeals of rage from them about one of their players being illegally tapped up by an even bigger club, although I can't remember who that player was. I've always thought they acted out of spite after being humiliated by us on telly. It certainly wasn't because they needed Parker, they hardly played him.
 
Thought the stick he got was OTT on Friday - particularly the song wit the worst word in it. But he was silly - all he had to do was be patient for another half a season. It would not have been to the detriment of his career, would have raised is value and increased his options. And it would have left us stronger. So 'one greedy bastard' - whilst I didn't sing it, its not a sentiment I disagree with.
 
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