Match Day Thread Palace v Toon

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Away from home we are utter ****. It’ll be those fixtures what are our downfall. Would any other team in the top 8 play Longstaff and Burn? Genuine question.
Longstaff probably not, Burn at CH is decent, been motm a few times lately.
It beggars belief at how many “fans” on here seem to wallow in a bad performance.
If you can’t take the bad with the good, go and find something else to do ffs.
 
Gordon's Right footed

The thing he's pointing out is that our left hand side has been our biggest threat and he moved Gordon to accommodate Barnes and it didn't work.

The Spurs game may have worked, but Today was a different opponent and unfortunately the manager didn't get that right... we were disjointed collectively.

Last week Howe got it right but definitely not Today... we were awful.
 
These decisions show how average he is.

Murphy at right back.

Krafth at CB.

Burn at left back.

Gordon at RW.

What on earth is he thinking?
I’ll say it yet again, Murphy wing back not FB ( like v Spurs)Krafth CB ( like v Spurs) Burn absolutely was not at LB all game but left CB ( like v Spurs) Gordon RW yes ( like v Spurs) with a £40M left winger on
 
Longstaff probably not, Burn at CH is decent, been motm a few times lately.
It beggars belief at how many “fans” on here seem to wallow in a bad performance.
If you can’t take the bad with the good, go and find something else to do ffs.
For me, it’s making **** loads of effort and paying a fortune to get to away matches (when I can) and all that to watch the ****e we produce sometimes. Feel for the fans tonight.
 
Do we have other options though? Bruno, Anderson and Longstaff is pretty much all we can put out for midfield.

White or even Hall who has played there... play a different formation or something.. there's always more options.I don’t understand why a player that playing badly cannot be replaced even at the moment. What's to lose can white play worse than longstaff? Prove it Howe.

Anyway like I said I wasn't expecting to win Tonight... the next 2 are the important ones but I would be hoping to see Hall and Livramento start.....we know they won't though it'll be the same team probably.
 
Exactly mate....... if the argument is it worked vs spurs then it wasn't spurs was it... also why in God's name can't this manager change things before it's gone wrong? He does nothing and when he does it's nothing even remotely adequate.

It was awful from Howe Tonight.... shall we expect to see Livarmento and Hall vs Sheffield United ?.NO
Point is your argument is against playing those players there at all but it did work v Spurs so clearly you’re wrong. Ok it didn’t tonight but not because they absolutely can’t play there. Certainly he should have changed it sooner though. Livramento not getting on at all suggests to me he wasn’t really fit enough to have been on the bench
 
For me, it’s making **** loads of effort and paying a fortune to get to away matches (when I can) and all that to watch the ****e we produce sometimes. Feel for the fans tonight.

**** happens, you support through thick and thin and always run the risk of travelling to see a defeat/**** game.

Liverpool fans just paid a ****load to see their team through away the title against their dogshit rivals.
 
I’ll say it yet again, Murphy wing back not FB ( like v Spurs)Krafth CB ( like v Spurs) Burn absolutely was not at LB all game but left CB ( like v Spurs) Gordon RW yes ( like v Spurs) with a £40M left winger on

Felt like it lacked any of the fluidity or structure of the Spurs game. And, as has been said, Palace aren't Spurs. They don't play remotely similar. Howe seems to have lost that ability to regularly set the team up for the next game.

We were away against a side in form, surely counter attack was the right approach but we didn't feel like we really knew what the plan was. I sympathise that no PL manager should be down to picking players like Krafth, Murphy, Burn, Longstaff, etc. But Howe's petty attempt at showing his limitations in bringing Ritchie and White on lacked class. There's no reason whatsoever to bring Ritchie on. Similarly, why was Livramento even there?

All in all I think Howe's a decent coach, nice bloke, but just really limited. Shown up for the most part in the CL when we actually had a strong squad, dreadful squad rotation/management, inflexibility, too much loyalty. All the hallmarks of someone who will never win anything. His mentality is almost the opposite of people like Jose, Fergie, Pep, etc. Sentimentality can never get you anywhere in football.
 
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Chill with the bloody paragraphs dude!

What do you mean they beat us? We've played them twice this season and won both times. He's getting crucified cos expectations are higher there, and that's before you get on to disaster signings that cost a fortune like Antony and Sancho, and last season best player Casemiro being appalling this season. Plus they were dogshit in the champions league and are nowhere near it this season. And then Sundays game.....ummm, yeah.
The cup final mate. Last season. You do recall they beat us right?