Didn't say that, but the vast majority are..
I'm not a public sector worker, but I most certainly understand why they feel aggrieved.
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Didn't say that, but the vast majority are..
I'm not a public sector worker, but I most certainly understand why they feel aggrieved.
I do work in the public sector and you read a lot of crap in the press - I am waiting till I can retire on my massive pension (if you listened to the press)
I never said for one moment that everything would not grind to a halt without public sector workers i am just saying we pay thier salaries and therefore we pay thier tax aswell.
You also said that public sector workers don't contribute to the economy which is quite simply just wrong..
Vera Baird was elected as police and crime commissioner as she gained 56% of the vote from the 16.4% turnout. This region had higher than the UK average 14% turnout. David Cameron insisted that despite such a low turnout, those elected had a proper mandate from the electorate. It seems that he has less respect for the mandate for strike action provided by a higher percentage turnout of those union members eligible to vote.
That said, I don't see any point in one day strikes. They cause a relatively minor inconvenience so do nothing to force a change of heart by government. Surely workers who feel aggrieved that they are not being fairly treated by their employers should be prepared to withdraw their labour indefinitely (or else simply look for another job). Unless they actually vote with their feet then the government will feel justified in driving down their overall pay package (including pensions). If such a low percentage can even be bothered to vote to support a 1 day strike, how likely is it that significant numbers would be prepared to take real industrial action in support of their cause? Today is merely a token futile gesture.
Well financially they dont as its my own money they are putting back into the economy so i would quite happily put it back in myself if I didn't have to give them it.
But surely in the same way public sector workers spend the money they earn to the private sector i.e. shops, bars, nightclubs etc. etc. so they are therefore paying the private sector workers salary. What goes around comes around, and believe me if the hierarchy get their way with unions, the private sector ordinary workers will suffer too.
What a ridiculous statement, public sector employees also pay taxes.
Taxes along with government investments are used to build the public purse to provide necessary services, public sector employees are employed to provide those services.
By your argument, I pay the wages of brewery workers because I have had a pint today and somehow I have a say in their pay and conditions, I have also had a packet of crisps, I must hold some ****ing power me.
So you are saying they are paying the private sector workers with thier own money.
It's a bit like the chicken and the egg isn't it!!!!
So you are saying they are paying the private sector workers with thier own money.
I think that you need to take an economics class to understand a bit about what money actually is. I'm not going to try explaining this on a football forum.
Just to make you think a little about your prejudice against the public sector, think for a moment about the recent privatisation of the royal mail. One day, according to your logic, your postman was a public sector worker leeching your hard-earned money taken from you through taxation. The next day he was a private sector worker who, like you, found that his hard-earned wages were having tax deducted from them to pay for the public sector scum. What about employees of Lloyds bank, RBS etc who went overnight from respectable private sector workers to public-sector leeches when the government took majority ownership of these banks? What do you do to get your money that makes you so different to those employed by the government? Does your employer depend on public sector contracts for example?
F**wit nice one, Please tell me where all the money comes from to pay your salaries that you pay your tax out of you dim tw*t. See I can end a sentence the same as you.
Well actually no Smiffy I work my bollocks of myself to earn my own money its called self employed its where you get no money if you dont work how about you? I have no grudge against public sector workers and never mentioned leeches or scum so I assume this is what you must think of them in fact you will find I agreed the country could grind to a halt without them.
No, I said ****wit you said dim twat. However, Public sector workers assist and have an impact on everyone unless you live in your own bought wood, living off the land and ****ting in a bucket spreading your **** over your own crops. If you are one of these individuals then good on you. However do not demonise public sector workers for taking action against an inept Government who continually erode the Terms and Conditions of their Service. ****wit
I dont know what you are taking mate but I would cut down, when did i demonise public sector workers? by the way you still didn't tell me where all the money comes from to pay your salary and taxes.
Who the **** is holding you to ransom? You don't live here! Private sectors have unions too and they can strike. You seem determined to demonise public sector workers at every turn? Why don't we not bother having a public sector and only those who can afford to pay for services can have them........police, refuse collection, fires, health, schools etc, your son can pay for them all to private businesses. Yes privatisation is the way forward. It's worked in the energy sector. Competition driving down prices for the consumer oh hang on our bills have gone up over 400%
So in your self employment do you turn raw materials that have little or no value into something that has value (ie create wealth)do you use your brain to develop intangible assets of great worth, or do you just swap your labour for some bits of paper representing someone else's debt? For most people (whether public sector, private sector, self employed, working in the black economy etc) it is the latter. You don't pay the wages of public sector workers to any greater extent than they pay yours. The majority of people in the UK are net recipients from the state, even if they pay taxes. The real creators of wealth merely exploit our labour for as little money as they can get away with, and then try to create a public sector / private sector argument to avoid the attention turning towards them.
Sorry Smiffy you've lost me but I would like to point out i am 100% behind people striking if they need to Public sector or private sector makes no difference.