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Heard people say many a time about Revie just keeping Leeds up first season.Good job some on here weren't around in them days ay.<doh>
Morning all. I can't remember much happening to suggest success until he brought the kids in at Swansea. Within weeks a pattern of play emerged together with a will to win and a football team started to appear followed by a supporters dream.
 
What I think we need more than anything else is someone to challenge Pontus for his status as the boss man at the back. It's no conincidence that he played best when Bartley was alongside him and faded when Bartley left - Bartley was big enough and had enough quality to make Pontus have to work for recognition from the fans week in week out, which he craves, and he thrived on the competition.

Every side that have bossed us this year, and all the better teams, build their sides around two giant centre backs who repel everything thrown at them, and bully attackers. We only have one.

Anyone coming in would need to be six four plus, hard as nails and experienced at this level or above in a good side, and have a desire to not only win but stand out - think Aiden Fllint, Morrison / Bamba at Cardiff.

And they don't come cheap, but serious money spent on that position and one good attacking mid, likes of Maddison at Norwich, and we'd be better placed to compete.

Still leaves the striker question, but it'd be a start.

Just my take anyway. <ok>

Didn’t Bamba get hounded out of the club as useless??
 
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Well weve tried with with 2nd rate managers who know fook all about the championship & ones that have experience,but are to soft,or did not get any backing from the owners,so why not a quality manager who knows this league inside out & would get the backing from Radz,admittedly he's not the most loveable of characters but was Revie etc,yes he will divide the fans at first,but he will get results & hard grafting performances from the players,cause one things for sure he would not stand for some of the SH** performances that we have seen lately.

He might work but Pearson was not in charge of recruitment at Leicester, Steve Walsh now at Everton was (think he might be DOF there)
 
Orta is a bit love him or hate him, I’m in the middle on this because Inthink his brief is to find talent at a certain price point. Radz doesnt have the money for a Maddison, Flint, Chester, Snoddgrass, Terry, Grabban etc, so we try it on the cheap. From yesterdays game the only players I would keep are Pontus, Pennington, Forshaw, Alioski Saiz, oh and I would make sure Klich comes back because you slag him as much as you want but the shyte endured in the middle has killed our season. Klich is th eonly Leeds player flying and had a 5-1 win today against Vitesse keeping them 4th in the league 2 points clear of Feyernoord. Since he arrived Utrecht have had 3 draws, 6 wins and 1 loss which was against PSV. He has won MOM a couple of times, created winning goals and been selected in the leagues team of the week twice. We never saw him.

There are Orta signings at Forest and elsewhere in the league who left boro, some good players like Tomlin. Clayton is still there too. I suppose for every jem theres a lump of coal and we seem to have more coal than jems, maybe brought in too early. Grot has scored 3 in 3 for the U23s, Clarke knocking on the door, Hosannah and a few more kids nearly there. Cibicki looked class when he was in the U23s too so maybe next season. Its the middle for me though because Phillips, O’Kane are shadows of earlier in the season, Viera a shadow of last seasons player. We got rid of Bridcutt because of the players we had but wow Bridcutt is a big miss now. When he signed Traroe and Bamford they were shyte and look at them both now. Those 2 will get Boro promotion

Are you Leeds lovers second account?
 
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The club eventually buys it or he does a teak investments when the club gets sold in a fire sale admin..But it saves him money from day one not paying rent and it increased the asset value of his shell company. It was a pr master stroke nothing else.

I refer you to my previous post. Why did no one else pull of this master stroke??
 
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But you never explain why previous owners didn’t do the same if that was / is the case, Cellino, GFH et al....

Gfh didn’t have a pot to puss in, Cellino wasn’t bright enough to cut gfh out of getting a share by means of the charge they have on the club and he couldn’t afford to buy them out to get shot of them.
 
Wasn't it this time last season you lot were all booking flights and hotels <laugh>

looks like Me TC Stevie and Ringo will be going on our own AGAIN <ok>
same old same old
 
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Gfh didn’t have a pot to puss in, Cellino wasn’t bright enough to cut gfh out of getting a share by means of the charge they have on the club and he couldn’t afford to buy them out to get shot of them.

But you said it was (if not a quote but a paraphrase). 'It was easy PR spin that increased the value of his asset' yet it was neither easy or affordable to previous owners (including bates unless you subscribe to the belief he owned it)????
 
But you said it was (if not a quote but a paraphrase). 'It was easy PR spin that increased the value of his asset' yet it was neither easy or affordable to previous owners (including bates unless you subscribe to the belief he owned it)????

Certainly think Bates owned it. For gfh to have bought it they needed ready cash and they had none. You can speculate to accumulate but you do need the finance to get a seat at the table.
 
Certainly think Bates owned it. For gfh to have bought it they needed ready cash and they had none. You can speculate to accumulate but you do need the finance to get a seat at the table.

So Radz then has more access to financial backing (or has more readily available cash than Cellino), so in the long run is possibly more likely to progress us than previous owners (as he could bypass GFH and get the ground back)??
 
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So rad owns it now instead of Bates. Is that the idea
No the idea is to take perfectly innocent facts and pretend that an action we were all calling for, for the last decade, now that it’s happened is evidence of evil on an industrial scale

The differences between Rad and Bates are
1 transparency. We know Rad owned it because he has told us
2 financial. The LUFC business does not have a drain of paying rent every year (I think it was £2.6m from memory, a huge chunk out of our small annual revenues)
3. Attractiveness to new investors. If someone else wants to buy LUFC they can offer to buy from Rad the whole thing including the ground
 
So Radz then has more access to financial backing (or has more readily available cash than Cellino), so in the long run is possibly more likely to progress us than previous owners (as he could bypass GFH and get the ground back)??

The only relevant part of that imo is “ in the long run” and you omitted the word might. Priority number one for a football club should always be make the first team squad as good as possible. Achieve that and buying the ground would have been simple. I couldn’t give a **** on how owns the ground I want to see the club at least looking like it is able to compete with the better forming football sides. Buying ER was just a publicity stunt and lets wait till he ****s off before you start saying one of his companies owning it is too much better than teak investments owning it. If he sells the club and keeps the ground we are no further forward.
 
It’s a sad state of where football is in the present era. Clubs changing hands every couple of years between foreign billionaires. Most know nothing of the club or the game. Leaves fans often discussing club owners more than the football. Not just referring to Leeds here but a great number of big established clubs.
 
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