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  1. SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING

    SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING Well-Known Member

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    I didn’t even consider the Red Sox tbh. I have no idea about how baseball works tbh so can’t possibly comment. But I will say that it is not just about performance. It’s about a return on investment which is about the monetising of the performance against the investment made. If the current or future investors aren’t happy with our performances because it relates directly to value, there will be no more investment. I think that normally it takes a year to work through the books so Slot should have time tbh but let’s be clear, no success = less income = less investment (or even a divestment of assets to balance the books). So it may not be in Henry’s playbook, but I have zero doubt that if he gets shareholder friction and questions Slot, he’ll be gone.
     
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  2. RogerisontheHunt

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    I watched the Newcastle/Brentford game before ours and Dan Burn literally kicked the Brentford player in the box, ok so the Ref missed it and booked the Brentford guy for diving, but VAR looked at it and then came back with 'minimal' contact, agreeing with no pen and the dive but saying there was a kick on the shin.

    Move forward 45mins and Doku gets grazed by Mama's knee and falls over 5 seconds later, no pen at first, but wait VAR looks at it and says clear contact (and has to slow it down so much to see it) and gives the penalty.

    There in lays the madness, you can't claim minimal contact one game means no Penalty and the next give one for even less contact.
    VAR needs relegating to offside only and even then it should be the automated ****. Human opinion needs removing from off field decisions.
     
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  3. DirtyFrank

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    We need the rule of Milner: anyone over 30 that can't match 90% Millie's training stats gets sold lol.

    Maybe bring Milner back just to take part in training!
     
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    Thing is,if that goal is given as it should have been its 1-1 going in to the break and game on ....I thought Citeh were the better side overall,but
    that ridiculous decision could have affected the result.
     
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    It’s incredible tbh. I’ve always talked down the ‘corruption’ allegations but as every week goes by there is more and more of the same incidents with different outcomes happening and then you look across to what’s being uncovered in Turkey and have to wonder
     
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    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    So are we back then or what? Did we just pop out and forgot to turn up for this one?
     
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  7. SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING

    SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING Well-Known Member

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    Im as sure as sh*t smells that there’s bribery at times in the English game. I’d like to think that it is limited to betting syndicates and perhaps a very small minority of officials on the odd occasion but we’ve already seen that referees are from from perfect and their integrity can be questionable….so they’d be easy pickings for the shady world of betting.
     
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    Don't know, but I hate going into a break on the back of a defeat. People say we can benefit from the break but I've never seen it happen.
     
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  9. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I doubt they care. Its about asset value and ability to leverage so putting loads of young players in increases the value of the club so they can borrow against thr asset

    4th is the minimum. Thats reality.

    Right now we are starting to get closer to 17th than 1st.
     
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    They business people. Of course they care.
     
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    I'm not sure what I think about this so I'll ask you for your opinion. Coupled with the fact that I don't know if it's normal practice for managers. Slot went on holiday over the last international break and I've seen criticism from some (not on here) that in the middle of a critical period for us, in the midst of our poorest run for a long time, he should have stayed and worked hard with his coaching staff on coming up with fixes for getting us out of the mess.

    As I say, I don't know what to think about this. Do managers regularly go off on holiday during the season? What could he have done realistically with his staff had they got together? I really don't know.
     
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  12. Ivan Dobsky

    Ivan Dobsky GC Thread Terminator

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    Ffs, did anyone else hear Dermott Gallagher's word salad this morning when Jay Bothroyd asked him a perfectly reasonable question? "But you're not listening!", opined the former Benny Hill sidekick. I was. So, it was a subjective decision by the lino that Robbo was affecting play, so as it was a subjective decision, it cannot/should not be overturned unless you have factual evidence that the decision was wrong.

    But how can a lino judge the goalie's line of sight, or whether Robbo was affecting the goalie's dive from his angle? Surely, this is precisely what VAR is there for? No, apparently - VAR should not overrule a subjective, on-field decision unless they have objective evidence to present that proves the decision was incorrect. 'But couldn't they just ask the ref to view the screen?" asked Bothroyd, reasonably. "No, you're not listening! You can't ask the officials to go to the screen unless there is clear evidence that the on-field decision was wrong!" growled McDermott. Ergo, apparently, you cannot question a subjective decision, even if the official who made that call does not have the full, panoramic view that VAR has.

    What total and utter ****gabble. I think Jay should have slapped the little twat's head at that point.

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  13. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    What i mean is the asset value has gone up. They don't care about the sporting result int he short term. They know they've minted it after no 20.

    Both major teams they own put money in to be in position to win but they dont need to win every time.

    Fsg are building a campus around fenway. They are putting the players on the park to draw them in.

    As long as you or I are dreaming of success not hoping for 4th then they are in the slot they want to be in.

    They are thinking much longer term than 1 season and they wont eant to be seeing their lacky getting a pay off.

    They literally just want to hesr business result sand talk to slot on a couple of occasions a year.
     
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  14. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    So they should stop reviewing penalties and red cards immediately.

    If a ref says he say the tackle then its his subjective view so no var.

    Gallagher is in the pay of pgmol. Sky shouldn't be paying him too.

    Its either you get paid by me for expressing a view based on your expertise or you are being paid to be a.mputh.piece for pgmol.

    If its the latter I'd rather hear direct from pgmol.
     
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    asset values can go up and down mate. Success = revenue = Value.

    success will be measured by revenue and trophies. The latter, Slot has a lot of good will. The former is key though.

    Qualifying for CL next year is super critical to stand still. Progression in the CL this season past the last 16 should easily compensate for the difference between prize money between 1st and 4th or 5th, whichever qualifies for CL in the league (that’s an assumption, might be wrong)

    right now, there a several clubs that look much better than us. Early days but we need to see improvement in the next 10 games or Slot will be looking over his shoulder imo. Thats not me saying he should go, just my view of how investors view things.
     
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    Didn't the flag go up something like 14 seconds after the goal, leading some to say that the linesman must have been told through his earpiece to raise it to square with what the VAR was to come up with.

    It's looking more and more like the VAR isn't for clear and obvious errors at all.
     
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  17. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Not.on a balance sheet.

    The asset is the asset and amortised as such. The balance sheet value increases. The asset value increases.

    This is the Chelsea model too.
     
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  18. Zanjinho

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    FSG are also very numbers based and have statisticians that will be showing how the immediate season after investment is usually slightly down on the return but the season after shows the benefits of a (now) settled squad/team
     
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    I don't know the answer either. I hadn't heard about him going on holiday tbh, but perhaps there is only so much you can do without the players.
    I don't like to think the worst of anybody without sufficient evidence, and I don't think I know enough to pass judgement.
     
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  20. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Klopp took holidays.

    My thing about slot is I'd question the family as we all did with mourinho at man utd.

    Last year they were at school so they all stayed in Holland.

    Is the issue over with him?

    Have they committed to the club?

    I dont know.

    But its like this; you.might not have enough players but you have ones you.might work with if you want to.

    Endo, chiesa amd jones and gomez were all there to work with.

    What is found out as well eas they look a little break for a day after real.

    No get in here and recover. No..have a wee day off boys.

    The recovery certainly showed v city.

    I seriously question the fitness..you.cannot fix thst too easy.
     
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