I agree with all of this which is why I've been on here on an internet forum for hours, not something I'd usually do. Today has got me proper mad all in all. I just hope Nicky can get the truth out somehow and still get paid off by our owners.
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why go to that when poor old Nicky is getting nothing but a p45 for his services
I expect it's down to the Allams. I suppose they are scouring the internet now: "This Redknapp guy didn't get the job he wanted. Maybe he fances a change?"
Barmby appeal isnt to be reinstated , its to see weather he has a claim to compensation , thats why the club announced their intensions to find a replacement .
Thats how that bit works and it makes sense to me , why if Barmby is successful would anyone including himself want to be back at the club .
Im pretty sure , and i said this months ago , that Barmby needed the NEXT window to buy and get the axe out for replacements as he felt too close to the squad in January.
Thats how that bit works and it makes sense to me , why if Barmby is successful would anyone including himself want to be back at the club .
Im pretty sure , and i said this months ago , that Barmby needed the NEXT window to buy and get the axe out for replacements as he felt too close to the squad in January.
This situation makes me laugh. A lot of people on here were slagging off the Council for not selling to the Allams and singing their praises. Now, all of a sudden the Allams are the spawn of Satan when acting in the same manner.
My thought at the time was that they were businessmen first and foremost and were in it for more than giving something back to the city. However I am not going to automatically assume they are lying, it's not good business sense if it can be easily proved by Nick. Sacking him for calling them liars does seem more in character. However I am willing to listen to Nick's side when he finally tells it.
I wish it hadn't happened, and I hope it doesn't affect the club too much, but It's done so we're going to have to live with it.
Quite disappointed with all the references to the Allams as Egyptian's - how does their nationality make a difference? They have lived here longer than many fans have been born, and done more for the city and the club than most people. Smacks of racism to me and not needed in football.
My thought at the time was that they were businessmen first and foremost and were in it for more than giving something back to the city. However I am not going to automatically assume they are lying, it's not good business sense if it can be easily proved by Nick. Sacking him for calling them liars does seem more in character. However I am willing to listen to Nick's side when he finally tells it.
I wish it hadn't happened, and I hope it doesn't affect the club too much, but It's done so we're going to have to live with it.
Quite disappointed with all the references to the Allams as Egyptian's - how does their nationality make a difference? They have lived here longer than many fans have been born, and done more for the city and the club than most people. Smacks of racism to me and not needed in football.
I originally thought you were on the fence, which is fair enough, but from your second comment it sounded as though you were on the side of the Allams.
If any manager was given money to spend on a quality striker I find it highly, highly unlikely that they would turn it down in favour of continuing to use the likes of Aaron McLean and Mark Cullen.
It's already been said that we offered £600k for Hammill, which was understandably rejected.
He didn't tell the Allams that they should invest money. He was gently reminding them to fulfill promises.
Nick left after the end of Hull City's season but not before the European Champions League final or the play-off final.
Gets the truth out. Unless part of any deal doesn't allow this.
Shows the Allam's that if they don't do things properly they get
Then the Allams must be liars.........allegedly ! Lets be serious the Allams do have the best interests of the club at heart as well (even though they may want to see it in ££££ signs at some time).
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See i actually think they did offer to buy Sharp and sign him for 1.8M, just that Nick Barmby had more sense to the fact that one player on 25k say would disrupt the whole squad and ruin a wage structure that they where building up. They knew it would unsettle those on 8k who probably deserve more. And then extending Chester's, Evans's, Hobbs's contract etc.... would become a lot harder. I don't think we should doubt that, we should doubt why it wasnt available for other players.
Also i don't think he should do that, i just think as an employee his role is to do what the owners want him to, i do that for my employer.
To all those of you playing the morale ground, this is hardly the least morale thing happening in football right now.
Ignoring all that has been said on this subject I have had time to reflect on what has gone on. It is my belief that the Hull city board didn't think Barmby was experienced , astute, and political enough to be in such a top job to achieve the Allams expectations for the future. They took the first opportunity, excuse or reason to push him out so that a more seasoned manager could be brought in. I just hope they know what they are doing and are getting good advice. (Megson, Dowie, Ince could be in their sights.)
Charles, that seems similar to what I was thinking. Maybe the Allams felt sidelined by Adam and Nick: "we only want you two for your money"
This is my guess at what happened:
When Nigel Pearson left the club the Allam's decided to give NB his first role in management.
Why? - Because he was the cheapest option and being a rookie he would probably keep quiet and do what he was told.
However NB refused to take the job permanently until he had assurances that none of his best players would be sold.
The Allams reluctantly agreed but also noted; "This Barmby bloke might turn out to be a pain in the ar5e."
When the January window opened the Allams told NB that money was available but any spending would be deducted from his summer transfer budget.
NB said in that case he didn't want anyone in and would be satisfied with keeping the squad he had.
After the season ended NB believed that because he hadn't spent in January he would have the full budget for the summer. However he diidn't trust the
owners to stand by their word so he naively began dropping whopping great hints in the press.
The Allam's were incensed by his impudence (even though his suspicions were right) and they took the first opportunity to sack him.
Then they released a statement saying that NB was offered transfer funds in January, which is technically true but only half the story.
NB cannot refute these claims because the case will go to court and his lawyers have advised him to keep quiet.
When Nigel Pearson left the club the Allam's decided to give NB his first role in management.
Why? - Because he was the cheapest option and being a rookie he would probably keep quiet and do what he was told.
However NB refused to take the job permanently until he had assurances that none of his best players would be sold.
The Allams reluctantly agreed but also noted; "This Barmby bloke might turn out to be a pain in the ar5e."
When the January window opened the Allams told NB that money was available but any spending would be deducted from his summer transfer budget.
NB said in that case he didn't want anyone in and would be satisfied with keeping the squad he had.
After the season ended NB believed that because he hadn't spent in January he would have the full budget for the summer. However he diidn't trust the
owners to stand by their word so he naively began dropping whopping great hints in the press.
The Allam's were incensed by his impudence (even though his suspicions were right) and they took the first opportunity to sack him.
Then they released a statement saying that NB was offered transfer funds in January, which is technically true but only half the story.
NB cannot refute these claims because the case will go to court and his lawyers have advised him to keep quiet.
When I was an employee I didn't if I was a senior employee and knew more than the people who were my boss. I'm not saying I would ignore them but I would tell them if I thought they were wrong and not blindly do what they said. Nick's position is such that he can't resign every time he doesn't like what he's told to do because there isn't always another job waiting.
A manager should be respectful of the financial situation but maybe he shouldn't have said too much to the media but I accept it is difficult when you are asked questions.
joking aside, that is my actual worry, ... or that iain dowie is always watching games for sky sports, he must know his stuff..
I thought that the reason for Nicks dismissal would eventually come out as something other then the comments he made in the media. Now it has been made official that the reasons for his sacking were indeed comments made to the media, I,m ****ing gutted and ashamed of our owners actions. This has nothing to do with "he,s one of our own" or wether he was a good or bad manager thats all imaterial to me. They may have had legal protocol to get rid of him but morally they should hang their ****ing heads in shame. He,s been shafted good and ****ing proper. This could of and should of been dealt with behind closed doors but the Allams as shown in the past are getting quite proficient to use the media for their own use, . I will renew my pass next year as I support my team but you Mr Allam while i respect you as a buisnessman I dont respect your moral values