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Main problem to me is if Renault have time to develop fixes for 'reliability' you can guarantee that the 'fix' will also be a performance improvement!
 
51LV3R8RR04 said:
It's more to do with the fact, 'If you don't f**k me over I wont f**k you over when the day comes that you get a major problem.'

Ferrari and Mercedes don't need Renault to f**k them back in the future at some point. Renault might go through the whole season vetoing everything the other 2 need in which will escalate the cost for everybody racing for next season, the fans will suffer having cars go slower than others and this with making things harder for everybody involved in F1.

If Ferrari or Mercedes veto any reliability changes for Renault after now , IT WILL! escalate into a full blown war right back at them.


What happens if Ferrari or Mercedes encounters a major problem come China? Oh dear, don't think Renault will allow that to happen...
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I think the problem now is that Renault can't ask for reliability fixes until the season starts, so they're going to have a spot of trouble for the first few races as they use the old parts then try the new ones......
 
I'm sure the Merc and Ferrari had one eye on the last time Renualt were allowed to modify the engines a few years ago, which not only improved reliability but aided performance as well.

It's Renault's own fault for getting it wrong, depsite the additional time everyone had to develop the powertrains.

They'll just have to live with it for a bit.
 
The lap charts are conflicting.... so for now the final result is one of these :)

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[TD]TIME[/TD]
[TD]DIFF.[/TD]
[TD]#[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]1.[/TD]
[TD]
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[/TD]
[TD="class: driver"]Perez[/TD]
[TD="class: team-name"]Force India[/TD]
[TD]VJM07[/TD]
[TD]1:35.570[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="class: aantalronden, align: right"]108[/TD]
[TD="class: result-banden"][/TD]
[TD="class: pit"]PIT[/TD]
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[TD]2.[/TD]
[TD]
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[/TD]
[TD="class: driver"]Alonso[/TD]
[TD="class: team-name"]Ferrari[/TD]
[TD]F14 T[/TD]
[TD]1:35.634[/TD]
[TD]+0.064[/TD]
[TD="class: aantalronden, align: right"]100[/TD]
[TD="class: result-banden"][/TD]
[TD="class: pit"]PIT[/TD]
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[TD]3.[/TD]
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[/TD]
[TD="class: driver"]Ricciardo[/TD]
[TD="class: team-name"]Red Bull Racing[/TD]
[TD]RB10[/TD]
[TD]1:35.743[/TD]
[TD]+0.173[/TD]
[TD="class: aantalronden, align: right"]65[/TD]
[TD="class: result-banden"][/TD]
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[TD]4.[/TD]
[TD]
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[/TD]
[TD="class: driver"]Massa[/TD]
[TD="class: team-name"]Williams[/TD]
[TD]FW36[/TD]
[TD]1:36.507[/TD]
[TD]+0.937[/TD]
[TD="class: aantalronden, align: right"]102[/TD]
[TD="class: result-banden"][/TD]
[TD="class: pit"]PIT[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD]5.[/TD]
[TD]
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[/TD]
[TD="class: driver"]Button[/TD]
[TD="class: team-name"]McLaren[/TD]
[TD]MP4-29[/TD]
[TD]1:36.901[/TD]
[TD]+1.331[/TD]
[TD="class: aantalronden, align: right"]26[/TD]
[TD="class: result-banden"][/TD]
[TD="class: pit"]PIT[/TD]
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[TD]6.[/TD]
[TD]
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[/TD]
[TD="class: driver"]Bianchi[/TD]
[TD="class: team-name"]Marussia F1 Team[/TD]
[TD]MR03[/TD]
[TD]1:38.092[/TD]
[TD]+2.522[/TD]
[TD="class: aantalronden, align: right"]75[/TD]
[TD="class: result-banden"][/TD]
[TD="class: pit"]PIT[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD]7.[/TD]
[TD]
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[/TD]
[TD="class: driver"]Hamilton[/TD]
[TD="class: team-name"]Mercedes GP[/TD]
[TD]W05[/TD]
[TD]1:39.041[/TD]
[TD]+3.471[/TD]
[TD="class: aantalronden, align: right"]89[/TD]
[TD="class: result-banden"][/TD]
[TD="class: pit"]PIT[/TD]
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[TD]8.[/TD]
[TD]
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[/TD]
[TD="class: driver"]Vergne[/TD]
[TD="class: team-name"]Toro Rosso[/TD]
[TD]STR9[/TD]
[TD]1:39.636[/TD]
[TD]+4.066[/TD]
[TD="class: aantalronden, align: right"]45[/TD]
[TD="class: result-banden"][/TD]
[TD="class: pit"]PIT[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD]9.[/TD]
[TD]
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[/TD]
[TD="class: driver"]Gutierrez[/TD]
[TD="class: team-name"]Sauber[/TD]
[TD]C33[/TD]
[TD]1:39.976[/TD]
[TD]+4.406[/TD]
[TD="class: aantalronden, align: right"]85[/TD]
[TD="class: result-banden"][/TD]
[TD="class: pit"]PIT[/TD]
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[TD]10.[/TD]
[TD]
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[/TD]
[TD="class: driver"]Maldonado[/TD]
[TD="class: team-name"]Lotus[/TD]
[TD]E22[/TD]
[TD]1:41.762[/TD]
[TD]+6.192[/TD]
[TD="class: aantalronden, align: right"]31[/TD]
[TD="class: result-banden"][/TD]
[TD="class: pit"]PIT[/TD]
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[TD]11.[/TD]
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[/TD]
[TD="class: driver"]Ericsson[/TD]
[TD="class: team-name"]Caterham[/TD]
[TD]CT05[/TD]
[TD]1:42.516[/TD]
[TD]+6.946[/TD]
[TD="class: aantalronden, align: right"]35[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]1.[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]Sergio Perez[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]Force India[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]Mer.[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]VJM07[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]1:35.570[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]108[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]2.[/TD]
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[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]Fernando Alonso[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]Ferrari[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]Fer.[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]F14 T[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]1:35.634[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]0.064[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]122[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]3.[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]
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[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]Daniel Ricciardo[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]Red Bull[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]Ren.[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]RB10[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]1:35.743[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]0.173[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]66[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]4.[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]Felipe Massa[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]Williams[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]Mer.[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]FW36[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]1:36.507[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]0.937[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]104[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]5.[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]Jenson Button[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]McLaren[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]Mer.[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]MP4-29[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]1:36.901[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]1.331[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]52[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]6.[/TD]
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[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]Jules Bianchi[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]Marussia[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]Fer.[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]MR03[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]1:38.092[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]2.522[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]75[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]7.[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]
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[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]Lewis Hamilton[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]Mercedes[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]Mer.[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]W05[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]1:39.041[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]3.471[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]89[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]8.[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]Jean-Eric Vergne[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]Toro Rosso[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]Ren.[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]STR9[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]1:39.636[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]4.066[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]61[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]9.[/TD]
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[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]Esteban Gutierrez[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]Sauber[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]Fer.[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]C33[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]1:39.976[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]4.406[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]106[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]10.[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]Pastor Maldonado[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]Lotus[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]Ren.[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]E22[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]1:41.613[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]6.043[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]31[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]11.[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]
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[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]Marcus Ericsson[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]Caterham[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]Ren.[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]CT05[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]1:42.516[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]6.946[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]55[/TD]
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With 2 days to go it still looks like nobody knows who will win the first race. I think Williams look strong at the moment, still unsure about Mercedes and Ferrari.
 
After two days:

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[TD="align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Williams[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]231[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1250[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD="align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Force India[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]213[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1152[/TD]
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[TD="align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Sauber[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]195[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1055[/TD]
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[TD="align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Mercedes[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]178[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]963[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Ferrari[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]176[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]952[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD="align: center"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]McLaren[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]161[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]871[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Marussia[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]119[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]644[/TD]
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[TD="align: center"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Toro Rosso[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]116[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]627[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]9[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Red Bull[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]105[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]568[/TD]
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[TD="align: center"]10[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Caterham[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]74[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]400[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Lotus[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]62[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]335[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD="align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Mercedes[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]783[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4237[/TD]
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[TD="align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Ferrari[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]490[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2651[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Renault[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]357[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1932[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
BrightLampShade said:
Day 1

Average KM per engine if we ignore the shortest running team from each group (using Forix data):

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[TD]Mercedes[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]603[/TD]
[TD]km[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]Ferrari[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]386.5[/TD]
[TD]km[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Renault[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]227[/TD]
[TD]km[/TD]
[/TR]
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Average KM per engine if we ignore the longest running team from each group (using Forix data):

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[TD]Mercedes[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]546[/TD]
[TD]km[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]Ferrari[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]265[/TD]
[TD]km[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Renault[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]160[/TD]
[TD]km[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
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Day two

Average KM per engine if we ignore the shortest running team from each group (using Forix data):

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[TD]Mercedes[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]543[/TD]
[TD]km[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Ferrari[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]617[/TD]
[TD]km[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Renault[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]326[/TD]
[TD]km[/TD]
[/TR]
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Average KM per engine if we ignore the longest running team from each group (using Forix data):

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[TD]Mercedes[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]441[/TD]
[TD]km[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]Ferrari[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]490[/TD]
[TD]km[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Renault[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]263[/TD]
[TD]km
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
I think the biggest question is how many will start in Aus (considering the 107 rule) and how many, if any, will finish.
 
BrightLampShade:6152784 said:
Red Bull Racing ‏@redbullracing 2h
Always be ready. You never know what could pounce from the shadows… pic.twitter.com/y5kL0fLqWK

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Red Bull to reveal a massive sandbagging operation :)
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Yup... Extreme sandbagging. Those rat b'stards. :p

In all seriousness though... we can analyze testing 'till the cows come home, but what counts is when they all hit the track in anger. Then we'll see what they've been holding back.
 
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