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Official Pre-season testing thread

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  1. ched999uk

    ched999uk Well-Known Member

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    Main problem to me is if Renault have time to develop fixes for 'reliability' you can guarantee that the 'fix' will also be a performance improvement!
     
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  2. BrightLampShade

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    I think the problem now is that Renault can't ask for reliability fixes until the season starts, so they're going to have a spot of trouble for the first few races as they use the old parts then try the new ones......
     
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  3. allsaintchris.

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    I'm sure the Merc and Ferrari had one eye on the last time Renualt were allowed to modify the engines a few years ago, which not only improved reliability but aided performance as well.

    It's Renault's own fault for getting it wrong, depsite the additional time everyone had to develop the powertrains.

    They'll just have to live with it for a bit.
     
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  4. BrightLampShade

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    The lap charts are conflicting.... so for now the final result is one of these :)

    MOST RECENT UPDATE: 14:33:33
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    [TD]1.[/TD]
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    [TD="class: driver"]Perez[/TD]
    [TD="class: team-name"]Force India[/TD]
    [TD]VJM07[/TD]
    [TD]1:35.570[/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [TD="class: aantalronden, align: right"]108[/TD]
    [TD="class: result-banden"][/TD]
    [TD="class: pit"]PIT[/TD]
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    [TD]2.[/TD]
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    [TD="class: driver"]Alonso[/TD]
    [TD="class: team-name"]Ferrari[/TD]
    [TD]F14 T[/TD]
    [TD]1:35.634[/TD]
    [TD]+0.064[/TD]
    [TD="class: aantalronden, align: right"]100[/TD]
    [TD="class: result-banden"][/TD]
    [TD="class: pit"]PIT[/TD]
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    [TR]
    [TD]3.[/TD]
    [TD]
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    [/TD]
    [TD="class: driver"]Ricciardo[/TD]
    [TD="class: team-name"]Red Bull Racing[/TD]
    [TD]RB10[/TD]
    [TD]1:35.743[/TD]
    [TD]+0.173[/TD]
    [TD="class: aantalronden, align: right"]65[/TD]
    [TD="class: result-banden"][/TD]
    [TD="class: pit"]PIT[/TD]
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    [TR="class: zebra, bgcolor: #E5E2DF"]
    [TD]4.[/TD]
    [TD]
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    [TD="class: driver"]Massa[/TD]
    [TD="class: team-name"]Williams[/TD]
    [TD]FW36[/TD]
    [TD]1:36.507[/TD]
    [TD]+0.937[/TD]
    [TD="class: aantalronden, align: right"]102[/TD]
    [TD="class: result-banden"][/TD]
    [TD="class: pit"]PIT[/TD]
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    [TD]5.[/TD]
    [TD]
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    [TD="class: driver"]Button[/TD]
    [TD="class: team-name"]McLaren[/TD]
    [TD]MP4-29[/TD]
    [TD]1:36.901[/TD]
    [TD]+1.331[/TD]
    [TD="class: aantalronden, align: right"]26[/TD]
    [TD="class: result-banden"][/TD]
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    [TD]6.[/TD]
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    [TD="class: driver"]Bianchi[/TD]
    [TD="class: team-name"]Marussia F1 Team[/TD]
    [TD]MR03[/TD]
    [TD]1:38.092[/TD]
    [TD]+2.522[/TD]
    [TD="class: aantalronden, align: right"]75[/TD]
    [TD="class: result-banden"][/TD]
    [TD="class: pit"]PIT[/TD]
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    [TD]7.[/TD]
    [TD]
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    [TD="class: driver"]Hamilton[/TD]
    [TD="class: team-name"]Mercedes GP[/TD]
    [TD]W05[/TD]
    [TD]1:39.041[/TD]
    [TD]+3.471[/TD]
    [TD="class: aantalronden, align: right"]89[/TD]
    [TD="class: result-banden"][/TD]
    [TD="class: pit"]PIT[/TD]
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    [TD]8.[/TD]
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    [TD="class: driver"]Vergne[/TD]
    [TD="class: team-name"]Toro Rosso[/TD]
    [TD]STR9[/TD]
    [TD]1:39.636[/TD]
    [TD]+4.066[/TD]
    [TD="class: aantalronden, align: right"]45[/TD]
    [TD="class: result-banden"][/TD]
    [TD="class: pit"]PIT[/TD]
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    [TD]9.[/TD]
    [TD]
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    [TD="class: driver"]Gutierrez[/TD]
    [TD="class: team-name"]Sauber[/TD]
    [TD]C33[/TD]
    [TD]1:39.976[/TD]
    [TD]+4.406[/TD]
    [TD="class: aantalronden, align: right"]85[/TD]
    [TD="class: result-banden"][/TD]
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    [TD]10.[/TD]
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    [TD="class: driver"]Maldonado[/TD]
    [TD="class: team-name"]Lotus[/TD]
    [TD]E22[/TD]
    [TD]1:41.762[/TD]
    [TD]+6.192[/TD]
    [TD="class: aantalronden, align: right"]31[/TD]
    [TD="class: result-banden"][/TD]
    [TD="class: pit"]PIT[/TD]
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    [TD]11.[/TD]
    [TD]
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    [TD="class: driver"]Ericsson[/TD]
    [TD="class: team-name"]Caterham[/TD]
    [TD]CT05[/TD]
    [TD]1:42.516[/TD]
    [TD]+6.946[/TD]
    [TD="class: aantalronden, align: right"]35[/TD]
    [TD="class: result-banden"][/TD]
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    [TABLE="class: results, width: 590"]
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    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]1.[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]
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    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]Sergio Perez[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]Force India[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]Mer.[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]VJM07[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]1:35.570[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"][/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]108[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]2.[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]
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    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]Fernando Alonso[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]Ferrari[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]Fer.[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]F14 T[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]1:35.634[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]0.064[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]122[/TD]
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    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]3.[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]
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    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]Daniel Ricciardo[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]Red Bull[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]Ren.[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]RB10[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]1:35.743[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]0.173[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]66[/TD]
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    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]4.[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]
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    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]Felipe Massa[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]Williams[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]Mer.[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]FW36[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]1:36.507[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]0.937[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]104[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]5.[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]
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    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]Jenson Button[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]McLaren[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]Mer.[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]MP4-29[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]1:36.901[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]1.331[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]52[/TD]
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    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]6.[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]
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    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]Jules Bianchi[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]Marussia[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]Fer.[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]MR03[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]1:38.092[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]2.522[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]75[/TD]
    [/TR]
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    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]7.[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]
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    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]Lewis Hamilton[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]Mercedes[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]Mer.[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]W05[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]1:39.041[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]3.471[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]89[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]8.[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]
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    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]Jean-Eric Vergne[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]Toro Rosso[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]Ren.[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]STR9[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]1:39.636[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]4.066[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]61[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]9.[/TD]
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    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]Esteban Gutierrez[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]Sauber[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]Fer.[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]C33[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]1:39.976[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]4.406[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]106[/TD]
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    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]10.[/TD]
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    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]Pastor Maldonado[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]Lotus[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]Ren.[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede"]E22[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]1:41.613[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]6.043[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #dedede, align: center"]31[/TD]
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    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]11.[/TD]
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    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]Marcus Ericsson[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]Caterham[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]Ren.[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef"]CT05[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]1:42.516[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]6.946[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #efefef, align: center"]55[/TD]
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  5. Eat Sleep Watch F1 Repeat

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    With 2 days to go it still looks like nobody knows who will win the first race. I think Williams look strong at the moment, still unsure about Mercedes and Ferrari.
     
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  6. BrightLampShade

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    After two days:

    [TABLE="width: 40%"]
    [TR]
    [TD="bgcolor: #404040, align: center"] Seq. [/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #404040, align: left"] Make [/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #404040, align: center"] Laps [/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #404040, align: center"] km [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="align: center"]1[/TD]
    [TD="align: left"]Williams[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]231[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]1250[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR="bgcolor: #F0F0F0"]
    [TD="align: center"]2[/TD]
    [TD="align: left"]Force India[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]213[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]1152[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="align: center"]3[/TD]
    [TD="align: left"]Sauber[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]195[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]1055[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR="bgcolor: #F0F0F0"]
    [TD="align: center"]4[/TD]
    [TD="align: left"]Mercedes[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]178[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]963[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="align: center"]5[/TD]
    [TD="align: left"]Ferrari[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]176[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]952[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR="bgcolor: #F0F0F0"]
    [TD="align: center"]6[/TD]
    [TD="align: left"]McLaren[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]161[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]871[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="align: center"]7[/TD]
    [TD="align: left"]Marussia[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]119[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]644[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR="bgcolor: #F0F0F0"]
    [TD="align: center"]8[/TD]
    [TD="align: left"]Toro Rosso[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]116[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]627[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="align: center"]9[/TD]
    [TD="align: left"]Red Bull[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]105[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]568[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR="bgcolor: #F0F0F0"]
    [TD="align: center"]10[/TD]
    [TD="align: left"]Caterham[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]74[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]400[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="align: center"]11[/TD]
    [TD="align: left"]Lotus[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]62[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]335[/TD]
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    [TD="bgcolor: #404040, align: center"]Seq. [/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #404040, align: left"] Engine [/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #404040, align: center"] Laps [/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #404040, align: center"] km [/TD]
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    [TR]
    [TD="align: center"]1[/TD]
    [TD="align: left"]Mercedes[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]783[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]4237[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR="bgcolor: #F0F0F0"]
    [TD="align: center"]2[/TD]
    [TD="align: left"]Ferrari[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]490[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]2651[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="align: center"]3[/TD]
    [TD="align: left"]Renault[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]357[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]1932[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]
     
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  7. BrightLampShade

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    Day two

    Average KM per engine if we ignore the shortest running team from each group (using Forix data):

    [TABLE="width: 196"]
    [TR]
    [TD]Mercedes[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]543[/TD]
    [TD]km[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Ferrari[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]617[/TD]
    [TD]km[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Renault[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]326[/TD]
    [TD]km[/TD]
    [/TR]
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    Average KM per engine if we ignore the longest running team from each group (using Forix data):

    [TABLE="width: 196"]
    [TR]
    [TD]Mercedes[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]441[/TD]
    [TD]km[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Ferrari[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]490[/TD]
    [TD]km[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Renault[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]263[/TD]
    [TD]km
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]
     
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  8. Smithers

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    I see Mclaren and Merc suffered with gearbox issues today?
     
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  9. 51LV3R8RR04

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    After lengthy use yes.
     
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  10. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    I think the biggest question is how many will start in Aus (considering the 107 rule) and how many, if any, will finish.
     
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  11. 51LV3R8RR04

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    By my logic 1 Mercedes, 1 Ferrari, 2 williams, 2 force india's, 1 sauber, 1 mclaren, 1 marussia, no Red Bull,TR, Caterham or Lotus.

    So 9-10 cars are the bet for me.
     
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  12. Smithers

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    Hopefully that is the reason and they have met the target mileage for the unit.
     
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  13. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    I doubt they have, it's also interesting to note that Rosberg car broke during his race sim at the last test.
     
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  14. BrightLampShade

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  15. 51LV3R8RR04

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    An engine failure.... am I right?
     
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  16. Eat Sleep Watch F1 Repeat

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    Peter Windsor was track side at Bahrain today and he said the Red Bull had plenty of grip and was very fast through the corners..
     
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  17. BrightLampShade

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    100 page documents :)
     
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  18. 51LV3R8RR04

    51LV3R8RR04 Well-Known Member

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    yeah Jenson says the same, just quick everywhere.
     
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    Yup... Extreme sandbagging. Those rat b'stards. :p

    In all seriousness though... we can analyze testing 'till the cows come home, but what counts is when they all hit the track in anger. Then we'll see what they've been holding back.
     
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