Official Pre-season testing thread

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I think the new regulations as a whole this year really favour Raikkonen. …
…I still think Alonso will edge Kimi this year, even if the regulations aren't perfect for him. He always seems to find a way.
AG: for the sake of brevity, please forgive me trimming your excellent post. You've made some good points.

Yes, it is Alonso's preference for understeer which underpins his steering technique (and the high ratio he uses for it) because he's continually exploring the limit of grip, feeling his way around with slip-angles regularly in excess of 10% at the front. By contrast, he doesn't enjoy the rear to be too lively. (…anticipates another Bando joke!). It'll be interesting to see how Pirelli's new rubber works (… please: one joke is enough), and Alonso will be very happy if it doesn't grain too much, or unpredictably. (oh crikey, I give up…).

You also make reference to Räikkönen's technique, and I agree with you that it has become gentler, smoother and easier since his rallying. The contrast between Ferrari's drivers
* this season is substantial and will require a very well-balanced chassis if they are each to succeed without detriment to the other. See below.

So which Merc driver is going to win the WDC this season? Will they let Rosberg win?
Yes, Han; they'll let Rosberg win! No doubt about it. Rosberg is maturing into a thoroughly serious contender to become a world champion, well capable of pushing Hamilton very hard. He has ridden himself of the 'enigma' status I labelled him with years ago, both in his early F1 days, and of course whilst under the humid atmosphere surrounding Schumacher. (You may be new to this forum but many established members graduated from the BBC606 F1 forum; one of several where I made this point).

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*Between team-mates, the contrasting styles of Alonso and Hamilton were even bigger and I'm sure most will remember McLaren's headaches that year, with ultimately disastrous fallout. But although I don't expect fireworks (if they happen) to be so dramatic at Maranello, Alonso's unrelenting clamour for attention could lead to pram toys on pavements if Räikkönen puts him under early pressure, or if he senses the car favouring his opponent's style more than his own.
 
I feel that if this was the mid naughties Raikkonen then it would be very close, but I can't help but think he's massively under performed in the last two years, he's had a pretty much equal car to Alonso and couldn't get close to him in the championship either time. I can only see one winner here.

..And not to mention Massa was easily better than Raikkonen at the time they were team mates (yes even in 07 imo, just Massa couldnt handle the pressure) and Alonso has easily beaten him.
 
What is that supposed to mean? Did they think Ferrari would be **** or are they saying Ferrari are just generally looking strong?

To quote.....



FERRARI IS BETTER THAN EXPECTED
Kevin Turner

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It was always likely one of the engine manufacturers was going to run into trouble with the complicated new systems.
Ferrari was the most conservative when it came to lobbying for various powerplant rules over the winter so there was an assumption it was already on the back foot, that 2014 would be Mercedes versus Renault.
The Jerez running indicates otherwise. Mercedes has grabbed the headlines, accounting for 60 per cent of the total number of laps completed, but Ferrari has been quietly impressive too.

If you take the number of laps completed per car, Ferrari has 148 against the 219 of Mercedes (and 50 of Renault). Then throw in the fact that Marussia didn't get its Ferrari-powered MR03 onto the track until day three and the tally looks good.
It's hard to argue Mercedes is not currently ahead in the engine war, but Ferrari is in the ballpark.
 
and here we go........

So it begins... *gust of wind in background*


Anyway I expect Rosberg to go up another notch like Hamilton who is now used to the team after a year in. Rosberg has the respect and self confidence in taking on one of the best 3 drivers on the grid after only finishing 18pts away from him. This with just a bit more bad luck than which Lewis endured IMO last year, but not by much. In respect they're both close in ability, Hamilton is more consistent in Qualifying, starts and race and is WDC experienced unlike Rosberg.

But Nico is more mentally stable and seems better able to adapt around new parts as proven with Schumacher when the car was made to suit him more and for Hamilton last year with brakes, Nico seems to be be able to work well with anything given to him. He also seems yet to hit his peak as well which is interesting as I believe Lewis had already hit it years ago, Nico just improves year after year and has a Vettel-esque improvement within F1 and slowly ironing out those issues he had the previous year.

I do believe nothing will separate them much, I'm talking like single figure close and that isn't for hype for the season, bar any major bad luck this will be the title decider right here IMO and I bet they both know it.

Also I expect Nico to go 101% I reckon he knows this will be his only chance to take the WDC as I do expect Vettel to come in to replace him if the Renault engine is looking that bad from 2014 onwards. Mercedes I know never really! considered Nico for the long run until he beat Schumacher as they themselves didn't openly rate Nico a top 5 driver at the time which was (Alonso, Button, Vettel, Hamilton, Kubica, Webber), Nico has had to work hard to prove us all wrong. Nico was the best driver available yes in 2009 though Vettel at the time was the more highly rated and wanted German, but Nico was never really a long term option when he first joined Mercedes back in 2010. I truly believe Mercedes always wanted Vettel to lead the team as do Ferrari when Alonso either retires or gets fired. So IMO, Nico doesn't have much choice, he has to win this WDC to secure his seat for the long term or very likely lose it come 2015 if they win nothing, plus the Mercedes board have been getting rid of old personnel in the Huag era since last year, and Nico would be one of them...

Hamilton is calmer mentally, I believe he has got past some issues with his father which is good to see. Niki and Toto seem to be protecting him well with his performances and giving him the kick up the backside when he doesn't perform well which does encourage him to do better rather than sulk 2011 style. If Hamilton can just hold is emotions for the whole year like Vettel and Alonso can do he is within a great shout of the WDC. He must not fade like he usually does, he cant because Nico will take him out there and then IMO.
 
I'm beginning to wonder if I should have begun this comparison of Ferrari's drivers in the thread concerning their F14T. Apologies to moderators if they see a need to transplant the recent part of this thread.

I feel that if this was the mid naughties Raikkonen then it would be very close, but I can't help but think he's massively under performed in the last two years, he's had a pretty much equal car to Alonso and couldn't get close to him in the championship either time. I can only see one winner here.

..And not to mention Massa was easily better than Raikkonen at the time they were team mates (yes even in 07 imo, just Massa couldnt handle the pressure) and Alonso has easily beaten him.
I agree Fred, that Alonso has always tended to have the edge on Räikkönen, who in my opinion was extremely fortunate to win his World Championship whilst its 'real' contenders continued to squabble and trip each other in a camp which had lost command, not least to Alonso's formidable ego. However, I think that for all concerned, things have evolved.

You mention Massa. Well, I would say that this is a very significant part of the equation, since there can be little doubt Alonso felt very comfortable about dominating him, and would have been more than happy to have him as a floor-scrubbing team-mate forever! Massa had always been Schumacher's lackey and he (Alonso) had despatched Schumacher; not once, but twice. Back to back. This effectively ended Schumacher's elevated status and put his nose so much out of joint that with reservation, he called it a day. Massa witnessed David slay not just his Goliath, but someone he saw as a virtually deity. Having been attached to his idol's coat-tails for almost his entire F1 career, Massa was, for Alonso, already well and truly cooked; especially since Alonso demanded and was granted an equally god-like, number one status when he gate-crashed the party for an apologetically loyal, thoroughly dejected number two.

Coming back to the present, Alonso is no longer in the comfort zone he's always enjoyed; after all, going even further back, he was always
psychologically far stronger than the equally quick Jarno Trulli. On top of that, as discussed already, Räikkönen has become more refined, and in my opinion, an altogether better driver than before. – And I think Alonso senses this.

Perhaps then, if Ferrari has not produced a car which gives Alonso a better chance of landing the first blow, they may be sitting on a time-bomb. As alluded to previously, if there is any substance to what is nothing more than a gut feeling at this stage, we may get a clearer picture in the heat haze of a Bahraini sand-storm…
;)
 
From Gary Anderson's test round up on Autosport:

"Bahrain will be interesting, because we will start to see more race-distance runs. Melbourne is a high fuel-use circuit so you might have to do your sims on 90kg instead as that would be equivalent to 100kg in Australia."

What's he on about? Does Australia have different gravity to everywhere else? I may well have missed his point. Any ideas?
 
From Gary Anderson's test round up on Autosport:

"Bahrain will be interesting, because we will start to see more race-distance runs. Melbourne is a high fuel-use circuit so you might have to do your sims on 90kg instead as that would be equivalent to 100kg in Australia."

What's he on about? Does Australia have different gravity to everywhere else? I may well have missed his point. Any ideas?


Bahrain is lower fuel use so for the same distance you'd need less fuel, so it helps you practice with the same limited amount of fuel? Surely teams would just go a longer distance...
 
Also another interesting thing I will be watching this year will be how Lewis does with this new braking system, 'brake by wire' as his biggest strong point as a driver are the use of his brakes historically. If not ideal for Lewis he seemed a bit flustered against Nico and Jenson when he isn't happy with them, a bit like Vettel was when the rear end was not consistent into corners.
 
Next tests:

19th-22nd Feb
27th Feb - 2nd Mar

Both in Bahrain and 4 days each

16 days to fix any issues now, realistically less as the cars need to get there and be built.
 
I think Ted said that they would have about 10 days after the 1st test before they would ship out to the next text, after the logistics of travelling we're taken into account.
 
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/112403

Apparently the new cars too slow.

Hmmm... they are driving the cars well below their maximum revs at this stage to focus on reliability and gather data, and many of them haven't even started sticking the proper aero bits on yet. So what's the point in an article saying the cars are slower? Come time to race and as the test progress they will have more straight line and cornering speed than they have now. With the total horsepower being not dissimilar to last year's cars I would expect straight line speed to be similar (with less drag perhaps with bits of wing no longer there, although maybe not in McLaren's case), cornering will be slower but few of these cars are in proper trim yet, so that should help. Seems a bit of a nonsense for drivers to complain the cars are slow at this stage. And as Alonso pointed out overall lap time is irrelevant really, what we are looking for is competition and exciting racing not lap time for its own sake.
 
AMuS said:
The winners are called Mercedes and Ferrari
What significance have the first test drives of the new Formula 1 generation in Jerez? If you drive with Mercedes engine can pat yourself on the back. Ferrari is stronger than expected. And on Renault and his clientele comes too much work.


Normally the first winter test answers the question: Who is quickly who slowly? In the past, there had been always find a rough direction. This time that was not the question. Over the four days of Jerez was all about one thing: Who drives and who does not?

Mercedes with psychological games
Mercedes and its three customer teams have the best solution to this task. The Silver Arrows completed their laps, as it would not give the new regulations. 309 in number. Nico Rosberg drove a race distance twice. On the last day even during a race simulation with real pit stops. There was also psychology in the game. The work team wanted to demonstrate strength at a time when the great enemy Red Bull was on the ground.

Only an accident of Lewis Hamilton on the first day of testing disturbed the test program. At 300 km / h front wing broke. He was believed to have been previously been damaged during internal stress tests. Mercedes was incredibly lucky. If the crash into the tire wall with three km / h more is done, the chassis would have been shattered. So ranged from odd jobs on site. Mercedes leave Jerez with a single large site. The automatic brake force distribution surprised the driver again and again. "We still have to work," Nico Rosberg admits.

McLaren quickly on the clock, slow top speed
The other teams left Mercedes Jerez in tidier mood. Here, the test began for McLaren with a day in the garage. A problem in the harness kept the car firmly to the boxes. There was then so much the better with two fastest times and a total of 245 laps. Newcomer Kevin Magnussen was the absolute fastest lap of 1:23.276 minutes with a bang from his business card.

As much reminiscent of the start of Lewis Hamilton. Quickly at first, then a brilliant departure. Magnussen struck on Friday at treacherous slippery conditions into the barriers a. That brought the Danes back to reality. The new McLaren MP4 -29 obviously, has the most output. But he lost against the other cars at top speed. No wonder, with the rear suspension, although donates pressure, but also as a barn door in the wind is.

Williams reborn
Felipe Massa will shine for the first time since his best season, 2008. The Brazilian marked the second fastest time, and he was one of those six drivers who blew up the 100-lap barrier. Williams looks like a new person. New engine, new engineers, a new driver and soon a big fat sponsor.

Frank Williams let himself slide on Thursday night in his wheelchair to the Mercedes-Motorhome to personally thank Niki Lauda and Toto Wolff. Technical director Pat Symonds made a contented face: "We have in comparison to the competition a much better car than last year."

Force India needed by the four Mercedes-team the longest to come regularly to drive. The node went on until the last day. And there sat a test pilot Daniel Juncadella in the car. Sergio Perez and Nico Hulkenberg had to sort out the teething problems. Juncadellas third fastest time on Friday, just three tenths behind Fernando Alonso, shows that Force India is well prepared this year.

Ferrari as a wolf in sheep's clothing
Ferrari was on the lap times only on the individual squares 5 and 7, but on closer inspection the World bronze medalist last year made ​​a good figure when Mercedes. The times to the first three days were owed about great caution. "We just wanted to do anything wrong," said technical director James Allison. On the last day showed Alonso, what's in the F14T. With 115 rounds of Spaniards recorded the highest daily quota. A racing simulation like Mercedes gave the Reds. "She was never planned," reads from Maranello.

It was not escape the impression that Ferrari remained far below its potential and stubborn transacted its testing program without showmanship should answer the following questions: Does the new power unit? Communicate the individual systems together? What strategies while saving energy at the output of the power and the braking force distribution are the best? Is the fuel consumption?

According to Ferrari neither drew Fernando Alonso Kimi Raikkonen still approximately the limit of what was possible. Found alongside the engineers still have time for elaborate aerodynamics tests. No other car was so often equipped with meter and smeared with FlowViz color. This was self-confidence.

Sauber drove a lot, but slowly
Sauber benefited from the reliability of the drive package from Ferrari. With 163 rounds, the Confederates ranked fifth. Here, too, was the motto. First study, then open the throttle. Nevertheless, Adrian Sutil's fastest lap with so much travel time of a disappointment. The 1:30.161 minutes undercut Sergio Perez, Nico Hulkenberg and Jean-Eric Vergne, despite fewer rounds and a lot of problems in a jiffy. Hulkenberg had not even make an effort for his 1:26.096 minutes time. "I was not even in my rhythm, since the car was already well again."

The second Ferrari customer Marussia accomplished a feat. The smallest team in Formula 1 solved the most difficult task of all times with decorum. The car arrived two days later in Jerez. Nevertheless, Jules Bianchi and Max Chilton reeled from even 29 rounds. And the car stopped not once unexpectedly. Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo will have to change his mind about the backbenchers in the field well.

Renault's problems from the outside audible
Also in the Renault -camp of the smallest of the greatest. was Caterham won with 74 laps clear before Toro Rosso (56) and Red Bull (21). It will probably remain the only internal victory of Caterham. The green cars were the least affected by the Renault problem because they most of the air leaving the new drive unit for life. Red Bull and Toro Rosso apparently also the installation had to do with the fact that the software was wrong commands, which then led to permanent battery drain.

During the charging process, the MGU-K and the MGU-H did not work hand in hand. You could hear it. In the braking zones, the wastegate valve repeatedly blew off the excess pressure. This device is designed with today's turbo engines for emergency use only, to intercept pressure spikes that could damage the engine. When accelerating there were misfires.

Renault gave himself to blame. You know the installations of different cars and have to react, said motor Chief Rob White. Nevertheless, Red Bull needed rectifying. The panel is due to too tight, or there are too few openings through which the hot air can flow. It is easier to enlarge the openings, but the costs massively output. A new panel takes time. Again, there are losses. "10 to 15 millimeters wider cost you half a tenth," says Mercedes chief designer Aldo Costa.

Renault bench test not realistic
Red Bull will solve the problem. The team is well positioned. Toro Rosso has less rework as Red Bull, and should also recover. The question is how quickly Renault can create the malaise of the world. Apparently, the bench tests were not realistic, otherwise you would have the problems can already guess in the test phase. And even if the Renault V6 properly stores energy during the first test in Bahrain, then you will need two to three days to process the other childhood diseases, which remained undetected in Jerez.

The same is true for the cars of Red Bull and Toro Rosso. It has practically learned nothing during the test opener in Andalusia. For many, Lotus therefore the winner of the Renault camp because the troop is not even drove from Enstone to Jerez.

Lotus has indeed saved a bunch of money, but is still open with a queasy feeling in Bahrain. On the one hand, because it is the success of the emergency surgery at Renault dependent, on the other hand, because the technician may also be lodged at the packaging of the drive unit to great risks. On the computer animation the rear of the Lotus E22 looks just as compact as that of Red Bull
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/...ger-heissen-mercedes-und-ferrari-8031151.html
 
Don't know if a video of Hamiltons crash was shown here..
[video=youtube;guc2-x7dGnA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guc2-x7dGnA&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/video]

Looks like Hamilton went wide over the kerb before the wing came off