1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Official Pre-season testing thread

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by BrightLampShade, Jan 9, 2014.

  1. Piebacca

    Piebacca Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    7,739
    Likes Received:
    739
    Seems to me that, for a lot of teams, breaking down halfway through is a fairly accurate race sim.:)
     
    #1761
  2. BrightLampShade

    BrightLampShade Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2011
    Messages:
    13,495
    Likes Received:
    2,568
    Average KM per engine if we ignore the shortest running team from each group (using Forix data):

    [TABLE="width: 196"]
    [TR]
    [TD]Mercedes[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]603[/TD]
    [TD]km[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Ferrari[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]386.5[/TD]
    [TD]km[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Renault[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]227[/TD]
    [TD]km[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]


    Average KM per engine if we ignore the longest running team from each group (using Forix data):

    [TABLE="width: 196"]
    [TR]
    [TD]Mercedes[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]546[/TD]
    [TD]km[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Ferrari[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]265[/TD]
    [TD]km[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Renault[/TD]
    [TD="align: right"]160[/TD]
    [TD]km[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]





    Bahrain tests combined times so far

    Quickest lap time by each team:[TABLE="class: thin"]
    [TR="bgcolor: transparent"]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"][/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]Team[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]Driver[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]Time[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]Gap[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR="bgcolor: #EEEEEE"]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]1[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]Mercedes[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]Nico Rosberg[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]1’33.283[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]2[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]McLaren[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]Kevin Magnussen[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]1’34.910[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]1.627[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR="bgcolor: #EEEEEE"]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]3[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]Force India[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]Sergio Perez[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]1’35.290[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]2.007[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]4[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]Williams[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]Valtteri Bottas[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]1’36.184[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]2.901[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR="bgcolor: #EEEEEE"]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]5[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]Ferrari[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]Kimi Raikkonen[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]1’36.432[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]3.149[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]6[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]Sauber[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]Esteban Gutierrez[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]1’37.180[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]3.897[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR="bgcolor: #EEEEEE"]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]7[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]Red Bull[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]Daniel Ricciardo[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]1’37.908[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]4.625[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]8[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]Marussia[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]Max Chilton[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]1’38.610[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]5.327[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR="bgcolor: #EEEEEE"]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]9[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]Lotus[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]Pastor Maldonado[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]1’38.707[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]5.424[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]10[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]Toro Rosso[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]Daniil Kvyat[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]1’38.974[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]5.691[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR="bgcolor: #EEEEEE"]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]11[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]Caterham[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]Kamui Kobayashi[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]1’39.855[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]6.572[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]
     
    #1762
  3. BrightLampShade

    BrightLampShade Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2011
    Messages:
    13,495
    Likes Received:
    2,568
    #1763
  4. ched999uk

    ched999uk Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 28, 2013
    Messages:
    5,233
    Likes Received:
    2,372
    Renaults power unit teams still seem to be struggling. I can't see the FIA enforcing the engine freeze tomorrow for Renault!
    But if Renault are allowed to continue development then Ferrari and Merc should also be allowed to continue development. It's not their fault Renault messed up so why should they have their engines frozen tomorrow when Renault can continue development while the fix their problems!

    When ever Renault or Red Bull talk about the engine issues they always say it's not just one problem it's lots of minor things, which assists in persuading FIA that they need to develop all the power unit not just certain aspects for reliability!
    So let all engine manufacturers develop before a freeze say at the beginning or summer break.
     
    #1764
  5. Forza Bianchi

    Forza Bianchi Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    5,132
    Likes Received:
    26
    Mercedes probably asked Benson to put the 75hp rumour out there. Renault are already in trouble, so spread the rumours about Ferrari and keep the shareholders happy.



    Paolo Filisetti ‏@paolofilise
    Some rumors regarding the Mercedes PU being more powerful of the FEr Pu of around 75 Hp, are wide off the mark! #puresciencefiction
     
    #1765
  6. BrightLampShade

    BrightLampShade Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2011
    Messages:
    13,495
    Likes Received:
    2,568
    Adam Cooper ‏@adamcooperF1 38m
    Red Bull: "We sent Daniel out for a long-ish run, but we had to abort about five laps in, as we noticed some issues on the sensors"


    Adam Cooper ‏@adamcooperF1 37m
    Red Bull: "We had a look at the car and discovered that we had a problem with the exhaust. So we had a long afternoon in the garage"





    [h=2]FIA and Pirelli to monitor tyre temperatures[/h]Pirelli tested a new type of sensor in Bahrain which will be used to ensure teams do not over-heat their tyres before fitting them to the car.Stickers attached to the tyres will monitor the maximum surface temperature reached when teams warm their tyres in blankets.
    “Pirelli prescribes a maximum temperature of 110C (230F), which should not be exceeded at any point before the tyre takes to the track,” Formula One’s official tyre supplier said in a statement.
    “The FIA will ensure that this limit is respected, together with the minimum tyre pressures when leaving the pits and maximum camber levels on the track.”
    The FIA will introduce a new rule next year banning the use of tyre warmers.
     
    #1766

  7. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    7,655
    Likes Received:
    1,314
    If Mercedes want to keep their shareholders happy, they just point to the laps completed and timesheets from the testing <ok>
     
    #1767
  8. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    7,655
    Likes Received:
    1,314
    Okay Forza, put all the bullshit and propaganda aside, where do you think Ferrari realistically are compared to Mercedes and McLaren?
     
    #1768
  9. VanGaalOut

    VanGaalOut New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2014
    Messages:
    337
    Likes Received:
    8
    Looks like it's going to be between Mercedes or McLaren. Though if Ferrari have the best car they walk away with the title don't rate the McLaren or Mercedes drivers compared to the Ferrari drivers.
     
    #1769
  10. 51LV3R8RR04

    51LV3R8RR04 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 28, 2013
    Messages:
    2,913
    Likes Received:
    57
    Benson is a 100% clear cut Ferrari Alonso fan, if he says your in the **** it must be fact!

    Oh wow an ((Italian)) said the 75bhp is off the mark, hell now I can sleep well knowing there is guy like him with his evidence to back it up like with all those 'facts' of those exotic engine materials existing...
     
    #1770
  11. 51LV3R8RR04

    51LV3R8RR04 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 28, 2013
    Messages:
    2,913
    Likes Received:
    57
    Order of grid:

    Mercedes
    McLaren
    Force India/Williams
    Ferrari
    Sauber
    Marussia
    Red Bull
    Lotus
    Toro Rosso
    Caterham
     
    #1771
  12. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    7,655
    Likes Received:
    1,314
    marussia's effort today is worthy of mention with all the problems they've had
     
    #1772
  13. 51LV3R8RR04

    51LV3R8RR04 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 28, 2013
    Messages:
    2,913
    Likes Received:
    57
    Helmut Marko saying Renault down by 165bhp on the Mercedes engine!
     
    #1773
  14. EternalMSC

    EternalMSC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2011
    Messages:
    10,624
    Likes Received:
    747
    Ferrari "seem" to be behind all Mercedes powered cars.
     
    #1774
  15. EternalMSC

    EternalMSC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2011
    Messages:
    10,624
    Likes Received:
    747
    #1775
  16. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    7,655
    Likes Received:
    1,314
    No no Manny, its just a trick by Ferrari to keep Mercedes shareholders happy &#55357;&#56838;

    in reality they are miles faster.
     
    #1776
  17. EternalMSC

    EternalMSC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2011
    Messages:
    10,624
    Likes Received:
    747
    please log in to view this image
     
    #1777
  18. BrightLampShade

    BrightLampShade Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2011
    Messages:
    13,495
    Likes Received:
    2,568
    Max has started a trend :)
     
    #1778
  19. BrightLampShade

    BrightLampShade Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2011
    Messages:
    13,495
    Likes Received:
    2,568
    [video=youtube;LVNWDD_7NTw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVNWDD_7NTw[/video]
     
    #1779
  20. BrightLampShade

    BrightLampShade Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2011
    Messages:
    13,495
    Likes Received:
    2,568
    DRS!

    please log in to view this image



    Red Bulls RW looking very basic compared to the others.
     
    #1780

Share This Page