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Official: Ivan Jurić named new manager

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by Le Tissier's Laces, Dec 15, 2024.

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Who Would You Like Next?

Poll closed Dec 23, 2024.
  1. Rafa Benitez

    9.1%
  2. Danny Rohl

    54.5%
  3. Sergio Conceiçäo

    3.4%
  4. Mark Robins

    2.3%
  5. Carlos Corberan

    5.7%
  6. Kjetil Knutsen

    1.1%
  7. Ole Gunnar Solskjaer

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. Vasco Matos

    3.4%
  9. Lallana until end of season

    6.8%
  10. A.N.Other

    13.6%
  1. LincolnSaint

    LincolnSaint Well-Known Member

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    Great point.

    It's all a bit rebelling against Mums new boyfriend vibes. **** 'em
     
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  2. SaintMarv

    SaintMarv Well-Known Member

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    At least he was nice to Mini Lincoln though.
     
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  3. LincolnSaint

    LincolnSaint Well-Known Member

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    Yeah nice guy, but so are most of them to be fair.
     
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  4. SaintMarv

    SaintMarv Well-Known Member

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    True
     
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  5. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

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    If true, shows how pathetic and embarrassing the squad are.

    They’re meant to be professionals ffs. Bunch of absolute melts
     
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  6. Puck

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    The concern I have with this is that I think we need a clear out of the squad anyway and that our squad's weakest area is mental strength. So there's a decent chance the players who are most upset are players we need to get rid of anyway. There's also the question of time. If we stick with Juric he and Spors can begin planning for next season now. If we bring in yet another new manager during the summer we can only begin planning once he's been appointed. And of course that manager may not start work until July and it would be completely understandable if he wants to give the current players a chance to impress him before making any decisions about them, which delays the whole process again.
     
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  7. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

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    These are really good points. Sticking with the manager does seem quite sensible.

    But then I picture having to watch this 5 at the back every week for the whole season and I die a little inside.

    Oh well. Maybe it will work with a whole new team…
     
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  8. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    Nah. We need a new manager, and to do it quickly. If it means spending a couple of million extra, so be it (I mean, we'll know now for certain how much it would cost for Röhl, for instance).
     
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  9. SaintinNZ

    SaintinNZ Well-Known Member

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    Please tell me what Rohl has done that I keep seeing him touted as the next manager? Not against it but not excited by the idea.
     
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  10. tomw24

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    Plenty. Turned Sheffield Wednesday from relegation fodder into a play off contender, while playing high pressing, entertaining football and having to work under a complete lunatic of an owner. Plus he knows the club very well after his spell as Ralph's number 2.
     
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  11. Ronnie Hotdog (MLsfc)

    Ronnie Hotdog (MLsfc) Well-Known Member

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    Took over Wednesday with them in the relegation zone and very much looking like they will go down. Didn't spend anything yet kept them up. Hardly spent anything in the summer either and has now got them into top half with an outside chance for a play off spot.

    Also has good pedigree as a coach/assistant from his time at Bayern, Leipzig, Saints and the German national team.
     
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  12. San Tejón

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    The Echo has an interview with Juric, in which he admits that Fernandes is not as effective for the team when he is being played wide left or right.
    He acknowledges that Fernandes is better when played centrally but says that “he can’t always play there”.
    WTAF.
    If you know he is at his most effective when played in his preferred role, then why replace him with someone else who isn’t as good as him and play him in a position where you know you won’t get the best out of him?
    That just weakens two positions.
    It’s not as if we are so blessed with central midfielders who can defend, attack and carry the ball that not playing him in his best position is an option.
     
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  13. Saintmagic

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    I guess it comes down to his opinion of our other options really. Is Fernandes centrally and someone else on the right better than someone else centrally and Fernandes on the right. Whilst Fernandes may drop off on the right is he still better than someone else there and someone else centrally means overall we are better?

    I’d say that almost every fan would be saying that our best option would be Sulemana on the left, Fernandes centrally and Dibling on the right, but maybe minutes have to be managed as Dibling is only 18, Sulemana has barely played football in the last 18 months and Fernandes is only 19.

    Juric may feel that with the guys behind those 3 it is better to use Fernandes wide than say Sugawara or Archer and have Smallbone Ugo and Aribo centrally
     
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  14. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    Plus he’s a very rare example of every fan of the team he’s in charge of loving him, and knowing that he’s destined for bigger things. A bit like we were with Poch I guess.
     
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  15. Saints Fan4Life

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    I'm not sure i would say he knows the club well; he was barely here for 6 months, what was it, 6-7 years ago? So much has changed since then, I doubt that factors into anything.
     
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  16. Saintmagic

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    He knows the Championship and has overachieved with the side he has so I’m fine with him next year (if it turns out to be him), but have some reservations. Obviously the PL is a big step up but his reported style I think is more suited to the situation we would be in if we were to come straight back up.
     
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  17. AberdeenSaint

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    Maybe Rohl would find Sheff Wed a more attractive proposition than Saints - the pissing contest of who is a bigger club is pointless, but they have huge potential. Bigger city, bigger ground (albeit antiquated), long history, multiple trophies blah blah
     
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  18. - Doing The Lambert Walk

    - Doing The Lambert Walk Well-Known Member

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    Um, no. Not a chance
     
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  19. tomw24

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    No money to spend, a crackpot owner. Managers aren't going to be too fussed about history of clubs.
     
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  20. Saintmagic

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    Basically what I want from a manager is the ability to play a different way in the Championship to the PL. We will be one of the better teams next year on paper and teams will play us as such, so a style that would’ve been good for us this year I have serious doubts about working next year. If Rohl plays a style that is high press trying to nick the ball in dangerous areas then I struggle to see how that would be effective over a whole season in the Championship when teams regularly sit back against us. If he was playing that way in the PL I could see us being competitive.

    As others said it seems to be an outdated approach that managers change style due to opposition and they have their one way of playing that if you are yo-yoing between divisions doesn’t look to me like it would work
     
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