Well, like I said, everyone makes mistakes, especially when they're young and I accept that, but after 20 times, you'd think someone would learn to use protection, especially if they're relatively old (i.e. late 20s)
Seriously? Who has had 20 abortions?
I find your assertion that it shouldn't be "encouraged" concerning. It is never encouraged, but by entertaining this thought you are stigmatising women who choose to have abortions for valid reasons.
He is from pompey!![]()

Back to the topic! I sincerely hope it is Obama! IMO his foreign policy is based on communicating with hostile countries and I believe we will see more of this as he won't be worried about a third term. Romney's and the Republican policy is a lot more confrontational and very scary!!
Seriously? Who has had 20 abortions?
I find your assertion that it shouldn't be "encouraged" concerning. It is never encouraged, but by entertaining this thought you are stigmatising women who choose to have abortions for valid reasons.
20 was just a random number, don't take it literally, basically I just mean they've become pregnant enough times for it no longer just be a simple mistake.
I don't think I am stigmatising women who choose to have abortions for valid reasons because I recognise that they are in a completely different situation to someone using it as form of contraception. I have nothing against women who have valid reasons (and I include people who have made a genuine mistake in that) and it'd be wrong of anyone to consider the two groups as the same. At the end of the day, I do think it should be legal, even if someone is using it as a form of contraception, as after all it is there body and I have no right to dictate what they should do with it. Just I think the latter is wrong and I think the blanket acceptance of abortion as being right is not necessarily wise or helpful, but of course a blanket rejection of abortion is completely wrong. Surely that's a fairly reasonable view?
I'm not sure if I misheard, but wasn't Romney quoted as saying something like "Russia is still America's biggest threat/enemy?"
20 was just a random number, don't take it literally, basically I just mean they've become pregnant enough times for it no longer just be a simple mistake.
I don't think I am stigmatising women who choose to have abortions for valid reasons because I recognise that they are in a completely different situation to someone using it as form of contraception. I have nothing against women who have valid reasons (and I include people who have made a genuine mistake in that) and it'd be wrong of anyone to consider the two groups as the same. At the end of the day, I do think it should be legal, even if someone is using it as a form of contraception, as after all it is there body and I have no right to dictate what they should do with it. Just I think the latter is wrong and I think the blanket acceptance of abortion as being right is not necessarily wise or helpful, but of course a blanket rejection of abortion is wrong. Surely that's a fairly reasonable view?
Foreign policy won't change whichever wins. Obama's administration has killed many civilians with those drone bombs in Pakistan. In many ways his foreign policy is no better than Bush's. For that reason I wouldn't vote for him, were it not that the alternative is too ghastly to even consider.
Phew!! True but perhaps this has been dictated by a need to get re-elected. If he is successful he won't have to worry about that and possibly we'll see the true Obama shine through!
PS: I see a comment from you "Pass" beginning with n!!
Yep. Seeing both sides is definitely the reasonable view in any debate! (In my opinion anyway!)
I'm not sure if I misheard, but wasn't Romney quoted as saying something like "Russia is still America's biggest threat/enemy?"
Well how far back do you want to go? Technically sperms are alive but you wouldn't advocate saving every one would you?
I think you overestimate the ease with which women have abortions. It's not something people decide upon on a whim, you can bet a lot of thought has gone into it, and if a particular woman has decided it's the right choice for her, then I respect that decision. That, to me, is more valuable than having these babies be born into families that don't want them.
He is from pompey!
I think anyone who is anti-abortion is absolutely wrong. Bringing another life into the world is a massive decision, and it should never be one enforced accidentally.
For what it's worth, I voted Obama. As people previously mentioned, he has done all he can to help America struggle through the economic crises. Mitt Romney is an absolute snake in the grass, and he literally just says what he wants people to hear. I thought Obama absolutely wiped the floor with him in the debates.
Read my post there just parental cells they dont have a full and unique genome like the fused egg cell does. So no I wouldn't advocate saving sperm as that would be like saving skin cells. I would go back to the fertilised egg, if you aproach this logically and without emotion thats the most obvious point at which a new human life is created. Not when they have brain function, by that argument are people with better brain function more human than those with worse?
I'll say it again picking an arbitrary value to decide what makes something human doesn't make sense when the one thing which truly does make us unique and human is a genome and fertilised eggs have that.
I have no doubt its a terribly hard decision and I dont want to victimise the woman who have abortions. However if you can't prove that these embryoes aren't human (and so far ive yet to see a convincing argument) then you have to accept abortion as the killing of a human life. If you are comfortable with doing that on the basis of finance/deciding whether they would have a good life then fine but I certainly wouldnt be and regard human life as far too precious.
Joe I was responding to you too just couldn't be bothered to quote you aswell sorry.
Wouldn't surprise me. This is what concerns me most about Republicans and their voters: it's almost as if they want America to have enemies. They think it's such a great thing to be this massive military power that keeps the rest of the world under its boot. That kind of attitude will cause more incidents like 9/11.
I would argue the life has already been brought into the world it just isn't fully independent yet (like a new born babie) and happens to be inside another person.