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Not sure where to put this so just using this thread as I did promise I'd try to keep people on here updated re rawa rather than solely posting on smb.

Rawa are going to hold an open meeting for members on April 18th, venue TBC (but will be Sunderland city centre). We just want to hear from the members regarding how they view the club/ recent meetings/ the action log the club produced etc. There will likely be some there who will want to push for protests/ ending engagement with the club. I know many on here don't want protests and the likes so, in the interest of balance, wanted to make sure it was mentioned here as well. Anyone who is a rawa member can feel free to come along and voice their opinion, whichever side of the fence you're on. The more the merrier. If people want to have a say but can't make the meeting, feel free to email [email protected] and we'll make sure your views are considered

I appreciate your efforts marra. The communication with the club is decent in my opinion. Of course sometimes you'll get fobbed off or be given a managerial bullshit line, but from reading the minutes I think the club has been challenged on a number of things and the verbal response has been positive.

The club have admitted failings, engaged with the support and have acknowledged the need to do better. The proof is in the pudding admittedly, but these things take time.

Protesting or ending engagement will be a really bad course of action in my opinion.

 

[DH4]

I appreciate your efforts marra. The communication with the club is decent in my opinion. Of course sometimes you'll get fobbed off or be given a managerial bullshit line, but from reading the minutes I think the club has been challenged on a number of things and the verbal response has been positive.

The club have admitted failings, engaged with the support and have acknowledged the need to do better. The proof is in the pudding admittedly, but these things take time.

Protesting or ending engagement will be a really bad course of action in my opinion.

Jaw jaw, not war war.

 

[SourPatch2]

Not sure where to put this so just using this thread as I did promise I'd try to keep people on here updated re rawa rather than solely posting on smb.

Rawa are going to hold an open meeting for members on April 18th, venue TBC (but will be Sunderland city centre). We just want to hear from the members regarding how they view the club/ recent meetings/ the action log the club produced etc. There will likely be some there who will want to push for protests/ ending engagement with the club. I know many on here don't want protests and the likes so, in the interest of balance, wanted to make sure it was mentioned here as well. Anyone who is a rawa member can feel free to come along and voice their opinion, whichever side of the fence you're on. The more the merrier. If people want to have a say but can't make the meeting, feel free to email [email protected] and we'll make sure your views are considered

****ing PROTESTS? Honestly I despair. Where were these people when Short had us in debt up to our eyeballs or when the chuckle brothers had us close to the brink? This has been the only fairly poor season under this regime and it isn't exactly a **** show. Financially we are in a good place, have a squad of sellable assets, academy is up and running again, womens team doing great, ground upgrades coming, off the field things seem to be coming together, exciting new kit deal.

So why the **** are we protesting?

 

[Southern A]

****ing PROTESTS? Honestly I despair. Where were these people when Short had us in debt up to our eyeballs or when the chuckle brothers had us close to the brink? This has been the only fairly poor season under this regime and it isn't exactly a **** show. Financially we are in a good place, have a squad of sellable assets, academy is up and running again, womens team doing great, ground upgrades coming, off the field things seem to be coming together, exciting new kit deal.

So why the **** are we protesting?

Honestly I'd feel so disassociated with my club if a sizeable amount of people protested (enough to get national attention). I think it would be enough for me to just pack it in and support a local club. All remaining connection I feel to the fanbase would be ruined.

I'm sure its just online warriors considering it.

 

[Hudson92]

****ing PROTESTS? Honestly I despair. Where were these people when Short had us in debt up to our eyeballs or when the chuckle brothers had us close to the brink? This has been the only fairly poor season under this regime and it isn't exactly a **** show. Financially we are in a good place, have a squad of sellable assets, academy is up and running again, womens team doing great, ground upgrades coming, off the field things seem to be coming together, exciting new kit deal.

So why the **** are we protesting?

If we protested every time we had a poor season I’d have spent 75% of my time as a fan protesting we need to tweak certain things yes but people are going on like we’re being run into the ground

 

[SourPatch2]

Honestly I'd feel so disassociated with my club if a sizeable amount of people protested (enough to get national attention). I think it would be enough for me to just pack it in and support a local club. All remaining connection I feel to the fanbase would be ruined.

I'm sure its just online warriors considering it.

If we protested every time we had a poor season I’d have spent 75% of my time as a fan protesting we need to tweak certain things yes but people are going on like we’re being run into the ground

Protesting because we've had a midtable season. We've underperformed yes but surely protests are reserved for clubs close to the brink like Reading this season for instance, not a mid table season. We've been poor but as @Hudson92 says we've been a lot poorer than this in our recent history and there was no protests, and if mid table or lower is the benchmark for protests surely about 70 of the 92 clubs should be protesting?

 

[Forpadydeplasterer]

Protests?!?!?! Jesus wept, some of our fans need to give there heads a shake.

I'm all up for discussion around concerns and improvements to be made. But to protest now, over what exactly?!?!

I said yesterday I doubt our fans have the patience for this long term plan and this just proves it in my eyes.

****ing protests man. I give up

 

[Teessidemackem]

I think us fans deserve and need to see some serious signs of ambition over the summer or it won't end well.
These last 2 transfer windows amongst other things associated with the club is an absolute embarrassment.

I still cant buy tickets using my mobile because im locked out, and nobody from the ticket office cares. I live in Stockton, work long hours and have joint custody of my twin lads so unfortunately i cant just pop to the ticket office.

My feelings towards our club now arent great at all. I feel we're being let down massively despite our 40k average gates.

 

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Protesting because we've had a midtable season. We've underperformed yes but surely protests are reserved for clubs close to the brink like Reading this season for instance, not a mid table season. We've been poor but as @Hudson92 says we've been a lot poorer than this in our recent history and there was no protests, and if mid table or lower is the benchmark for protests surely about 70 of the 92 clubs should be protesting?

I don't think you understand mate. We have more fans, that means we're worth more and are more important than other fans. Any owner who owns this football club should feel so honoured that we give our support that they feel duty bound to spend millions to make us competitive in the Premier League.

Anything less is unacceptable. I pay for a ticket and I demand better. I want it now.

If you're not that entitled then maybe you don't live in Sunderland anymore because if you did it would hurt more.

 

[SourPatch2]

I don't think you understand mate. We have more fans, that means we're worth more and are more important than other fans. Any owner who owns this football club should feel so honoured that we give our support that they feel duty bound to spend millions to make us competitive in the Premier League.

Anything less is unacceptable. I pay for a ticket and I demand better. I want it now.

If you're not that entitled then maybe you don't live in Sunderland anymore because if you did it would hurt more.

You had me for a minute there

 

[Pure River Slut]

you might aswell keep it ready for the next owners, soon as we have a poor season under them people be wanting protests aswell,

and to be honest i don't get what the protest is about, people wanted the stadium updated we getting it
people wanted SD gone it's happened
and the physically can't do anything about the recruitment of players right now because the window is shut

1st year promoted
2nd year playoffs
3rd year protest

and people wonder why are fan base get called toxic off other fans

Spot on this mate. Fair enough they’ve ballsed some things up, it’s a grim seasons end but we’ll end lower mid table in the championships while some poor side dream of it. Three decent signings and we’re back in the hunt for the premier league. Other club fans call us entitled. Hard to say otherwise if this goes ahead. KLD could sell us to a right shark. No to the dumb protest idea. Embarrassing.

 

[The Professor]

The only well known supporter I can think of is Kate Adie. Surprised at her behaviour tbh

Heard it was Dave Stewart....apararantly he was a right 'thorn in there side'

 

[Oliver's Army]

Spot on this mate. Fair enough they’ve ballsed some things up, it’s a grim seasons end but we’ll end lower mid table in the championships while some poor side dream of it. Three decent signings and we’re back in the hunt for the premier league. Other club fans call us entitled. Hard to say otherwise if this goes ahead. KLD could sell us to a right shark. No to the dumb protest idea. Embarrassing.

We will need more than 3 decent signings to push for the PL if we finish lower to mid table. Especially as the relegated PL sides have it boxed off with the parachute money.

 

[The Professor]

you might aswell keep it ready for the next owners, soon as we have a poor season under them people be wanting protests aswell,

and to be honest i don't get what the protest is about, people wanted the stadium updated we getting it
people wanted SD gone it's happened
and the physically can't do anything about the recruitment of players right now because the window is shut

1st year promoted
2nd year playoffs
3rd year protest

and people wonder why are fan base get called toxic off other fans

5 year plan....we have had a blip, albeit big blip second half of 3rd year, luckily we have enough points on the board we have got away with it & it can be sorted in the summer.

Reality check needed....did everyone think the 5 year plan was going to be plane sailing.....good summer & were back on track....but its got to be a good summer!

 

[Pure River Slut]

We will need more than 3 decent signings to push for the PL if we finish lower to mid table. Especially as the relegated PL sides have it boxed off with the parachute money.

Hypothetically we add Billy Mitchell, Ryan Hardie and Jed Wallace and have our players fit and we’re 15 points higher.

 

[Pure River Slut]

I think us fans deserve and need to see some serious signs of ambition over the summer or it won't end well.
These last 2 transfer windows amongst other things associated with the club is an absolute embarrassment.

I still cant buy tickets using my mobile because im locked out, and nobody from the ticket office cares. I live in Stockton, work long hours and have joint custody of my twin lads so unfortunately i cant just pop to the ticket office.

My feelings towards our club now arent great at all. I feel we're being let down massively despite our 40k average gates.

I partially agree. A protest is another level though. Summer is the time for change at a club, so let’s see what they change. One has started today

 

[Oliver's Army]

Hypothetically we add Billy Mitchell, Ryan Hardie and Jed Wallace and have our players fit and we’re 15 points higher.

But who do we lose from the current squad?

 

[Pure River Slut]

But who do we lose from the current squad?

Burstow Ekwah and Roberts. Easy that.

 

[Forpadydeplasterer]

Didn't protest when one of our board members, allegedly, knew we were playing a child sex offender.

Didn't protest when Ellis Short had us in virtually insurmountable debt which nearly sent us bust.

Didn't protest when we plummeted through the leagues.

Didn't protest when the chuckle brothers had to sell our best academy prospects to keep the lights on.

Didn't protest when we couldn't even make the league 1 play offs.

Didn't protest when we appoint Phil ****ing Parkinson as manager.

But aye let's protest because it's our first season of midtable obscurity since the 2010/11 season (yes that long since we had a season not battling promotion or scraping to stay up!!!)

Mistakes have been made and need to be addressed, have appropriate dialogue to discuss that. The RAWA have asked for stuff to be looked into and it seems as though the club are starting to make improvements and listen to them.

Protests man, jesus christ. What are we actually protesting about?!?!? Because we're not spending our way out the championship so we're taking a hissy fit?

 

[Brainy Dose]

you might aswell keep it ready for the next owners, soon as we have a poor season under them people be wanting protests aswell,

and to be honest i don't get what the protest is about, people wanted the stadium updated we getting it
people wanted SD gone it's happened
and the physically can't do anything about the recruitment of players right now because the window is shut

1st year promoted
2nd year playoffs
3rd year protest

and people wonder why are fan base get called toxic off other fans

Good post mate. As fans,we're not as great as we like to think. The atmosphere in the stadium is often nowhere near what it could and should be....other clubs fans expect more,based on both our past reputation and our away legendary support, and are often surprised.