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  1. Iain

    Iain Well-Known Member

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    So it also won't include any of the new signings from the summer which where more than we brought in from sales which will mean more losses. So if KLD has had to use his own money , yet people still claim he's tight, there has been plenty things wrong this season but I'm sure he's here for the long term with the right intentions. It also shows to be successful we have to get to the PL as soon as possible.
    Loads of people stating he's happy for championship mediocrity yet that's going to cost him 9 million a year why would he be content with that
     
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  2. Iain

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    Problem is mate, so many want success now, Ipswich have done fantastic this season. If they are promoted as it seems, how many of there current squad are PL quality, very few, so yes they will get the TV windfall money but that is nowhere near enough to buy a PL squad.
    What we have tried was signing players that in 2/3 years will be PL quality so when we go up we are not starting from scratch.
    Have they done that with the signings, that's a different story, but I'm not righting any of them off yet
    AA, Jobe, Ba, Huggins, Cirkin, Ballard,Alese and Ekwah I think could be. Then there are our youth players coming through, and the players we have out on loan could also come good.
    There needs to be that balance with a bit more experience, let's just hope the new head coach and set up get this right.
     
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  3. Lucky19672

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    The accounts are from 2023, almost a year ago. Not where we are today.
     
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  4. SourPatch2

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    Yes and them accounts show we spent a lot in the first year in the championship, and I guarantee next year our numbers will be even higher.
     
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    Teessidemackem Well-Known Member

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    So have u always been a fan of.him? How long have u known of him ffs
     
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    Teessidemackem Well-Known Member

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    Not looked round the bargain basement but we bought a.Benfica B team player, brought Burstow in on loan.. Yeah ok mate
     
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    McKenna? Was well documented that he was on OGS's staff at United and he's pretty much been class since he arrived at Ipswich. We were in the same league as them when he was appointed.
     
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    Cheers for that Flash <ok>
     
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    Good post mate. Cheers for that
     
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    Well said great post.
     
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  11. Scout73

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    The 2 players you mentioned came from benfica n Chelsea- 2 massive clubs so hardly from the bargin basement.

    Hemir also cost about a million, again not really a bargin basement signing

    As i said several times im not saying our recruitment has been good but its not because weve been shopping in the bargin basement

    We were at times in L1, when only signing players on free transfers like mcfadzen danny graham n co - that is shopping in the bargin basement (spending no money on cheap options)

    We have spent money on what the club felt were really exciting players, a lot havent work out in the short term (never know how they might turn out in the next yr or 2) but weve spent money n tried to be ambitious
     
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    Ive known of him since he was at8 spurs, say a couple training sessions he had ran with their youth teams and they were wow sessions tbh.

    Then when he moved to united i wasn't surprised to see him get promoted to 1st team coach (or assistant, cant mind what role it was) under Jose

    Did i expect him to do this well as a manager, no. But hes someone I've known about for years and whose had a great reputation in the game
     
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    Any knowledge on Maric style of play etc? Kind of an unknown quantity but exciting from what’s out there on him
     
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    Well done,mate...great post!
     
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    Not really tbh, I've watched bayern u19s a couple times this season - they are possession based and they press quickly but i know from listening to interviews he says he is flexible with style of football

    I think you need to be flexible in football, need to be able to adapt quickly. Burnley are a good example of that this season, they stuck to what they did in the championship and struggled, they have tweaked it to play through the lines quicker now and they are getting success
     
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    Because they are prepared to lose a LOT of money this season in gambling on promotion. A lot of teams have done it and suffered for seasons after (Stoke, WBA) but it looks as though Ipswich's gamble has paid off.
     
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  17. Iain

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    Some people will only accept us spending 5-6 million on quality championship players otherwise the owner is tight.
    I've said it many times before, we have been around the play offs since we were promoted other than when we went into free fall under Dodds.
    Take the players we have that we think are capable of taking us to the next level.
    Clarke, Ballard, Neil, Jobe, Alese, Cirkin, Huggins and Ekwah, throw in the potential of AA, Ba and the others out on loan.
    How much did they cost probably 15 million in total.
    As a guess I'd say to buy any of them now we would have to pay between 5-20 million for each player, we couldn't afford them.
    Huggins was a free transfer with a large sell on % if he was fit he's unbelievable so is that bargin basement.
    Ballard I think was around 1-2 million, regarded as one of the best in the league, is that bargin basement.
    Spending 1 million on a player with potential that in 3 years will have nailed down and worth 15 million isn't bargin basement.
    Have they got it right in the last 2 windows, probably not.
    KLD is losing millions every year being in the championship so he wants out as soon as possible.
    However as some think he should splash out and go for it, then if you get relegated it's OK you have the parachute money.
    That's not what he wants to do, he wants to go up and stay up.
    To do that you have to have the foundations before you go up so you aren't starting from scratch building a PL squad.
    I've got a funny feeling I've wasted my time trying to explain my point to some
     
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    You have, big time.
     
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    I've quoted Company before, he said it took his Burnley squad up to Christmas to reach the Premiership pace of football, nothing is straightforward with football
     
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