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Patches O'Houlihan said:
Would you refuse to employ someone who was a practising Christian or Muslim? I'm only using this analogy because it's the only one I could think of, but I quite often here people say this sort of thing, and the argument is always "It's their choice to have tattoos, so they should face the consequences". Tattoos are just a lifestyle choice like religion or playing sports, so why should they be discriminated against for having one? I'd understand if he had visibly, offensive tattoos, but denying someone a job opportunity because they have some ink on their skin is quite ridiculous.
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You don't have to give a reason for not employing someone, it can simply be that there's someone better and more suited to the role. I work with people from all ethnic backgrounds and religious beliefs - I have no issues with anyone. I just hate tattoos, it is what some employers would not employ people for - tramp stamps.
 
Hull City AFC (GLP) said:
You don't have to give a reason for not employing someone, it can simply be that there's someone better and more suited to the role. I work with people from all ethnic backgrounds and religious beliefs - I have no issues with anyone. I just hate tattoos, it is what some employers would not employ people for - tramp stamps.
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fact is, you'd only know they had tattoos if they are visible, ie neck, arms hands, wrist, so your point is valid.. unless you're some sort of porn photographer and see all their bodies
 
does anyone love smelling their own sweaty balls? like putting a wee finger down there and sniffing? i ****ing love it, smells beaut, regularly just sit and sniff

we all know bum chinned crab suffers from dangleberries, i don't, but i love the smell of my own sweaty crotch
 
allan ben arfa said:
does anyone love smelling their own sweaty balls? like putting a wee finger down there and sniffing? i ****ing love it, smells beaut, regularly just sit and sniff

we all know bum chinned crab suffers from dangleberries, i don't, but i love the smell of my own sweaty crotch
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you can come and sniff my sack and crack if it turns you on so much.

... who said keeping the scots was a great idea?
 
Patches O'Houlihan said:
I've edited my post to elaborate on my point. My argument is that tattoos are a lifestyle choice just like religion, and denying a Muslim a job opportunity because they are a Muslim is pretty similar to denying someone a job opportunity for having some harmless tattoos. It's discrimination either way, but they're also both choices.
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To be honest I've often had a similar thought. When you get people in the workplace - retail for example - who refuse to work Sundays on religious grounds cos they're a practising Christian, how exactly is that different to someone who chooses football as their religion? If you said "I cant work on any day my team are playing cos Ive bought a season ticket" its a fair assumption that the guvnor wouldnt go for it. But somehow religion is an acceptable excuse.

Is that similar to the point you were making?
 
allan ben arfa said:
does anyone love smelling their own sweaty balls? like putting a wee finger down there and sniffing? i ****ing love it, smells beaut, regularly just sit and sniff

we all know bum chinned crab suffers from dangleberries, i don't, but i love the smell of my own sweaty crotch
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It's more matted than dangleberried to be honest.
 
Patches O'Houlihan said:
Would you refuse to employ someone who was a practising Christian or Muslim? I'm only using this analogy because it's the only one I could think of, but I quite often here people say this sort of thing, and the argument is always "It's their choice to have tattoos, so they should face the consequences". Tattoos are just a lifestyle choice like religion or playing sports, so why should they be discriminated against for having one? I'd understand if he had visibly, offensive tattoos, but denying someone a job opportunity because they have some ink on their skin is quite ridiculous.
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It isn't as simple as that, it depends on the tattoos & their visibility.

Many people have their own preconceived ideas about tattoos, some feel threatened by them as it was once the case that it was a symbol of people in gangs, thugs or people who had been in prison.

Personally I also hate them, but if employing someone I would certainly consider if they had tattoos & if they were visible depending on the position they were applying for. I would never employ anyone in a customer facing job if they had tattoos which were visible in their workwear, but it would not stop me if they could easily be covered up. Using the same logic, if the person was working in a backroom or warehouse position then visible tattoos would not be a problem.

When in customer facing positions, these people are representing your organisation & thus public perceptions of that organisation. For the same reason I would not employ anyone in a customer facing position with facial piercings, multiple ear piercings or sub dermal implants
 
Patches O'Houlihan said:
I've edited my post to elaborate on my point. My argument is that tattoos are a lifestyle choice just like religion, and denying a Muslim a job opportunity because they are a Muslim is pretty similar to denying someone a job opportunity for having some harmless tattoos. It's discrimination either way, but they're also both choices.
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Can't agree, there is a difference between someone's belief structure & the choice over a fashion trend like a tattoo.

Tattoos are no different to a clothing fashion trend, but unlike clothing you cannot simply change your tattoos at will.

Imagine an environment where the job involved a smart uniform, but the employee refused to wear that uniform, you would not employ them & a tattoo can be considered in the same way, if there is a dress code then tattoos may not conform to that if visible. I have worked for companies where even jewellery (excluding a simple wedding band) were prohibited......first impressions count when applying for any job & while people should not make assumptions on seeing tattoos.....I can guarantee many people do.
 
NorthFerribyTiger said:
Can't agree, there is a difference between someone's belief structure & the choice over a fashion trend like a tattoo.

Tattoos are no different to a clothing fashion trend, but unlike clothing you cannot simply change your tattoos at will.

Imagine an environment where the job involved a smart uniform, but the employee refused to wear that uniform, you would not employ them & a tattoo can be considered in the same way, if there is a dress code then tattoos may not conform to that if visible. I have worked for companies where even jewellery (excluding a simple wedding band) were prohibited......first impressions count when applying for any job & while people should not make assumptions on seeing tattoos.....I can guarantee many people do.
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They are both lifestyle choices, neither is more valid than the other. Religion is treated with far too much respect in modern society when it is essentially an antiquated and simplistic way of controlling the masses.

How is that any different to people insisting they must wear their own religious dress instead of the uniform? You wouldn't deny them the job on those grounds for fear of religious discrimination.
 
Bum_Chinned_Crab said:
To be honest I've often had a similar thought. When you get people in the workplace - retail for example - who refuse to work Sundays on religious grounds cos they're a practising Christian, how exactly is that different to someone who chooses football as their religion? If you said "I cant work on any day my team are playing cos Ive bought a season ticket" its a fair assumption that the guvnor wouldnt go for it. But somehow religion is an acceptable excuse.

Is that similar to the point you were making?
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Yeah, they're all lifestyle choices. I don't see why some are okay to discriminate against but not others.
 
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