Not an impossible scenario

  • Please bear with us on the new site integration and fixing any known bugs over the coming days. If you can not log in please try resetting your password and check your spam box. If you have tried these steps and are still struggling email [email protected] with your username/registered email address
  • Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!
Oldsparkey said:
Hmm.....so nobody thinks we can get 8 points from these last 5 games eh? Going on recent performances, or are you all afraid of upsetting Stevo's missus?

I'll tell you now - if we get anything at all from what I regard as our most difficult game of the five at St. Marys, we'll get more than that. I even expect us to beat Chelsea on the last day to do it. You heard it hear first.

I'll bump the thread back up on May 11th so you can all grovel in apology - and I'll expect Stevo's missus to put in an appearance as well.......<laugh>
Click to expand...

Nah, you're going to get raped like a dog at a Portsmouth FC event.
 
Popbank1987 said:
Look - this is football, any thing is possible, not over til the fat lady sings, etc, etc, etc.

Arguments such as the above are the ONLY arguments that could be made for us right now.

In pure footballing terms, based on logic and experience of this year, it is impossible to make an argument for us. The arguments against us surviving are countless.

In the entire season, we have not won 2 consecutive games. We have been comfortably beaten at home by most of the teams around us. We have a dividied fanbase, a rookie manager (in PL terms) and are 7 points from survival. Since the first week of the season we have not beaten a team in the top half of the table (3 of our remaining opponents are in the top half) whilst all the teams around us have been picking up surprise victories. Our team last week, in a MUST WIN game, showed the least bottle I have EVER seen from a Cardiff team. I have seen division 3 City teams play with more belief and unity than we played with last week, in a do or die fixtures.

Obviously nobody knows, but I would put safe money that half of our squad are already in their agents' ears looking for a club for next season.They are all on th e beach already, and Im sorry I dont care how many of them say they are in it together and still fighting, the evidence on the pitch suggests the opposite.

I am all for fighting talk, and I feel awful for saying it, and I will still support us next season wherever we are. But I would consider it one of the most ridiculous turn arounds ever if we stay up this season. I have already reached the acceptance stage - deep down i reached it after the hull debacle...
Click to expand...

Yep, that's about the size of it.
 
Popbank1987 said:
Look - this is football, any thing is possible, not over til the fat lady sings, etc, etc, etc.

Arguments such as the above are the ONLY arguments that could be made for us right now.

In pure footballing terms, based on logic and experience of this year, it is impossible to make an argument for us. The arguments against us surviving are countless.

In the entire season, we have not won 2 consecutive games. We have been comfortably beaten at home by most of the teams around us. We have a dividied fanbase, a rookie manager (in PL terms) and are 7 points from survival. Since the first week of the season we have not beaten a team in the top half of the table (3 of our remaining opponents are in the top half) whilst all the teams around us have been picking up surprise victories. Our team last week, in a MUST WIN game, showed the least bottle I have EVER seen from a Cardiff team. I have seen division 3 City teams play with more belief and unity than we played with last week, in a do or die fixtures.

Obviously nobody knows, but I would put safe money that half of our squad are already in their agents' ears looking for a club for next season.They are all on th e beach already, and Im sorry I dont care how many of them say they are in it together and still fighting, the evidence on the pitch suggests the opposite.

I am all for fighting talk, and I feel awful for saying it, and I will still support us next season wherever we are. But I would consider it one of the most ridiculous turn arounds ever if we stay up this season. I have already reached the acceptance stage - deep down i reached it after the hull debacle...
Click to expand...

That's fair enough - but you shouldn't take everything posted by me and others on here so literally. This is a forum for chat.

Manic depressives are welcome, but so are those that like some off the cuff chit chat as well.

In all probability we will go down, but sometimes we need to put it on hold until the event. Chatting about the club, manager, team , supporters (and even the bloody owner now and again!) are what it's about on here.

If focusing on the **** that's been flying around the club and the impending doom of relegation is to be the only order of the day on here, I'll pack it in.
 
On a positive note I still maintain....despite all the controversies about signings over the past year, our playing squad is actually better than any of the bottom five

......trouble is only one or two are playing to their potential....and we've suffered because succesive managers have rarely played to the players' strengths.
 
As I said, until Palace started their good run everyone man, boy and monkey had them as a foregone conclusion for the drop, many saying they were worst than us.
West Ham were another club who looked like being in the bottom 3, also not looking capable of winning a game, but I guess it's the nature of football that it isn't over till the fat lady sings.
Of course if we keep following the trend we are now set in we will go down, so our hope is to buck that trend and get some wins.
Big ask, but no bigger than what Palace have achieved, and a lot were writing them off.
 
Oldsparkey said:
That's fair enough - but you shouldn't take everything posted by me and others on here so literally. This is a forum for chat.

Manic depressives are welcome, but so are those that like some off the cuff chit chat as well.

In all probability we will go down, but sometimes we need to put it on hold until the event. Chatting about the club, manager, team , supporters (and even the bloody owner now and again!) are what it's about on here.

If focusing on the **** that's been flying around the club and the impending doom of relegation is to be the only order of the day on here, I'll pack it in.
Click to expand...


Woooh, steady on! I wasn't disagreeing with anybody's right to have or air an opinion, of course that is what this board is about!

I was merely putting forward my reasoning for having given up in response to questions about why those such as me didn't think we had a chance. Not for a second suggesting that everybody should have given up, or that anybody who thought we would stay up should not be airing their opinions, just my take on it!

I will gladly accept how wrong I was if we do turn it around!

Not a manic depressive at all - I will be at St. Mary's tomorrow loud and proud...
 
Wasn't suggesting that you were a manic depressive Popbank - nothing personal.

Just saying this forum is open to all dispositions, from those ready to top themselves over our current situation, to those who think City will not only stay up, but will be Champion League contenders next season.

Going down is not the end of the world, and somewhere on this forum I've said I'm quite looking forward to the Championship in a strange sort of way. Whatever, let's see it through until May and then trawl through the prospective comings and goings of players (manager?) as a result.

BTW, good to see you'll be at St. Marys tomorrow. Having been more familiar with The Dell previously, I've only been there once since they moved in. I was far more impressed with the interior (very nice stadium) rather than the outside - looked like a grey shed with red doors to me.....<laugh>

(no offence meant Saints)
 
To be honest I will almost be relieved to be back in the championship - this visit to the prem has been one big disaster from start to finish!! Frankly I will quite enjoy being able to go to games not expecting us to lose!!

Hopefully in the next few years we will get financial stability, use the parachute payments wisely, build a team and a footballing identity that all our players buy in to and launch another assault on the premier league. And dare I say it we may be in blue next time... hey I can dream..
 
Popbank1987 said:
To be honest I will almost be relieved to be back in the championship - this visit to the prem has been one big disaster from start to finish!! Frankly I will quite enjoy being able to go to games not expecting us to lose!!

Hopefully in the next few years we will get financial stability, use the parachute payments wisely, build a team and a footballing identity that all our players buy in to and launch another assault on the premier league. And dare I say it we may be in blue next time... hey I can dream..
Click to expand...

I did say the forum was open to all opinions, but there's a world of difference between a dreamer and a fantasist.......<laugh>
 
Oldsparkey said:
Hmm.....so nobody thinks we can get 8 points from these last 5 games eh? Going on recent performances, or are you all afraid of upsetting Stevo's missus?

I'll tell you now - if we get anything at all from what I regard as our most difficult game of the five at St. Marys, we'll get more than that. I even expect us to beat Chelsea on the last day to do it. You heard it hear first.

I'll bump the thread back up on May 11th so you can all grovel in apology - and I'll expect Stevo's missus to put in an appearance as well.......<laugh>
Click to expand...

<whistle><whistle><whistle>................only 5 more points to go. Come on - where are you?!!!!!!........<laugh>
 
Wow... I love being proved wrong :-) best away day in a long time. Incredible. They really fought for it. There was passion in droves on the pitch and in the stands in a game i didnt give us a prayer in. Next two against a mathematically safe stoke and taple propping sunderland who have an abysmal home recird. Dare , dare i say it?

We have to replicate the atmosphere we created today as much as is pracitcally possible next week. Humble pie will never have tasted so good if we pull it off...

Stilll a huge ask, but SING OUR HEARTS OUT FOR THE BLOOBIRDS!!
 
DragonPhilljack said:
You'll need more than singing to keep you up!.................<laugh>
Click to expand...

Not quite sure how to take that comment, but i'll bite:

I am fully aware it will take more than singing to keep us up. However, if our players show half the heart, determination and unity they showed today, as opposed to the dross we sat through last week, I would predict that it is very possible we will be in situations similar to today where they have leads to hold on to.

In the past when we have been leading at home, our fans have got edgy, frustrated and nervous, getting on the players' backs. Today the crowd rose as one in an act of defiance and snag through the last half hour when every one of us deep down was bricking it.

I will never know how much, if any, effect the crowd's response to stressful situations has on the players. But it can only be positive if we get behind the team, is the point I was making.

After today, who knows ey!! (Still a massive ask, but we have that glimmer of hope at least.)
 
Popbank1987 said:
Not quite sure how to take that comment, but i'll bite:

I am fully aware it will take more than singing to keep us up. However, if our players show half the heart, determination and unity they showed today, as opposed to the dross we sat through last week, I would predict that it is very possible we will be in situations similar to today where they have leads to hold on to.

In the past when we have been leading at home, our fans have got edgy, frustrated and nervous, getting on the players' backs. Today the crowd rose as one in an act of defiance and snag through the last half hour when every one of us deep down was bricking it.

I will never know how much, if any, effect the crowd's response to stressful situations has on the players. But it can only be positive if we get behind the team, is the point I was making.

After today, who knows ey!! (Still a massive ask, but we have that glimmer of hope at least.)
Click to expand...

More than a glimmer Pop! The Bluebird massive were outstanding today and you have some very winnable games in your run in! Agree with Stevo that we are still a long way from safety :( Just glad that neither of us have the run in that Norwich have!! So am hoping that both Welsh clubs get the results required to ensure another couple of fabulous premier league derby next season! <cheers>
 
It was a huge win for us, but again we were simply lucky for a lot of the game. Marshall...can't say enough about the guy. Club legend for me.

What we really need is to follow up. The problem we have had is once we get a result we seem to rest on it for two or three matches. I am not convinced 34 will be enough so we need to get 4 from Sunderland and Stoke to have any real chance.

I agree with Sparkey in the sense that if we make it to the Chelsea game needing a point; we may well do it. Would sum up the season in many ways ;)
 
Popbank1987 said:
Not quite sure how to take that comment, but i'll bite:

I am fully aware it will take more than singing to keep us up. However, if our players show half the heart, determination and unity they showed today, as opposed to the dross we sat through last week, I would predict that it is very possible we will be in situations similar to today where they have leads to hold on to.

In the past when we have been leading at home, our fans have got edgy, frustrated and nervous, getting on the players' backs. Today the crowd rose as one in an act of defiance and snag through the last half hour when every one of us deep down was bricking it.

I will never know how much, if any, effect the crowd's response to stressful situations has on the players. But it can only be positive if we get behind the team, is the point I was making.

After today, who knows ey!! (Still a massive ask, but we have that glimmer of hope at least.)
Click to expand...

Really excellent response the the one-liner king and so true. <ok>

Phil - if you lose today against Chelsea and fail to get a win at Newcastle next week, you will be in deep trouble. However, I expect you to beat Villa at home and that would be enough to put you safe.

As far as we're concerned, we need to push on from here. The way things have turned around for the bottom clubs this past few weeks, I tend to agree with Temple's post - 34 points may well not be enough, particularly with our horrendous goal difference.

I'll repeat what I said a while back - if we get anywhere near survival level come the last game, the Chelsea encounter will be massive!
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top Bottom
Back