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I am sure he was happy what they paid him. He seems quite pleased with his time here, so a thanks for the opportunity although the waters have been muddied would have been icing on the statements cake.

Didn't he say something at one point about it being his lowest wage since the 70s?
 
I seem to remember Bruce and Cascarino playing for Gillingham against us in a night match at Priestfield and Cascarino was unstoppable. I think we lost 3-1.
 
I'd take Martinez - his teams try to play good football and certainly would prefer him to Colin, Mclaren, Phelan, Fat boy Fat (Evans) etc.

Why do people rate Martinez?

Succeeded Bruce before.
Made the best team in the club's history progressively worse.
Guided an established Premier League team to relegation.
All while playing turgid, sideways passing mind numbing football.
 
Why do people rate Martinez?

Succeeded Bruce before.
Made the best team in the club's history progressively worse.
Guided an established Premier League team to relegation.
All while playing turgid, sideways passing mind numbing football.

Mind numbing football? He plays an attractive, possession based attacking style of football which set up Swansea for the style of play that Rodgers, Laudrup and Monk inherited. He won Wigan an FA Cup final and kept them up against the odds for several years, and he took Everton to 5th before European struggles cost him.

He's no Alex Ferguson, but we're no Man United.

A manager with PL experience, experience fighting relegation, and someone who can instill some attacking drive in the team would be welcomed.
 
Mind numbing football? He plays an attractive, possession based attacking style of football which set up Swansea for the style of play that Rodgers, Laudrup and Monk inherited. He won Wigan an FA Cup final and kept them up against the odds for several years, and he took Everton to 5th before European struggles cost him.

He's no Alex Ferguson, but we're no Man United.

A manager with PL experience, experience fighting relegation, and someone who can instill some attacking drive in the team would be welcomed.

I also think Martinez would be a fantastic replacement for Bruce. Not sure if anything like that would or could happen under the current circumstances.
 
In fact if they'd been halfway smart, they would have punted Bruce on the FT whistle at Wembley, spent a few weeks wooing Gary Rowett, and then telling him he has 10m to spend to build his squad. The man clearly knows how to assemble a competitive squad on a minimal budget, and it would have been a lot better for them
 
In fact if they'd been halfway smart, they would have punted Bruce on the FT whistle at Wembley, spent a few weeks wooing Gary Rowett, and then telling him he has 10m to spend to build his squad. The man clearly knows how to assemble a competitive squad on a minimal budget, and it would have been a lot better for them
You can do better in the championship with that approach but not in the Premier League.
 
You can do better in the championship with that approach but not in the Premier League.

Agreed. It would still be better than the situation we've been left in now. Surely it wouldn't have been too hard for them to draw up a list of managers who have excelled with small budgets over the last few months of the season? A cursory knowledge of Google would have set them on the right path.
 
After Scunthorpe, we had 8 outfield payers and 2 keepers fit in the first team squad. No manager can make that work. Especially if some of those are putting in transfer requests.
 
Mind numbing football? He plays an attractive, possession based attacking style of football which set up Swansea for the style of play that Rodgers, Laudrup and Monk inherited. He won Wigan an FA Cup final and kept them up against the odds for several years, and he took Everton to 5th before European struggles cost him.

Bruce kept them up and flourished.

I know a Wigan fan who had a season ticket every year under Bruce and after 1 season with Martinez refused to go again under him as the football was so dull. Ask Everton fans what they think of his football.

And it wasn't European football that cost him at Everton, it was his work gradually unraveling the good work that Moyes did. Again, ask Everton fans. Seriously, go on WSAG for example.
 
Bruce kept them up and flourished.

I know a Wigan fan who had a season ticket every year under Bruce and after 1 season with Martinez refused to go again under him as the football was so dull. Ask Everton fans what they think of his football.

And it wasn't European football that cost him at Everton, it was his work gradually unraveling the good work that Moyes did. Again, ask Everton fans. Seriously, go on WSAG for example.

Most Everton fans criticised him for being too attacking. That's the first time I've heard someone call Martinez dull compared to Bruce, but each to their own.

My best mate is an Everton fan by the way.
 
Most Everton fans criticised him for being too attacking. That's the first time I've heard someone call Martinez dull compared to Bruce, but each to their own.

My best mate is an Everton fan by the way.

Go on WSAG and ask the questions of people who watch them every week for decades. If the overwhelming answers take your stance then I'll take that as correct.
 
Martinez had a great time in his first season, but by the end of the third, the desire to see him gone was pretty much universal.

Things went disastrously wrong, I've no idea why, but their Premier League performances in his final season were dire.
 
I am confused as to why Phelan would want to stay if things are so awfully bad.

I don't doubt things are bad because they are but Phelan seems quite keen to work under Ehab so that in itself seems strange. And it is hardly like Phelan is some unknown coach.
 
I am confused as to why Phelan would want to stay if things are so awfully bad.

I don't doubt things are bad because they are but Phelan seems quite keen to work under Ehab so that in itself seems strange. And it is hardly like Phelan is some unknown coach.

Because it gives him a taste of managing and he'll get to put 'PL Manager' on his resume.
 
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