Nigel's Done One
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If they're not happy they could sack him or tell the new contract offer is withdrawn and move onto to a new manager.
How many unemployed managers are out there with the experience to give it a go ( make a challenge for a playoff spot) with a bigger track record than Adkins ?
How many of (guess) that small number would want to work for an ownership who :
(a) don't seem to have any ambition other than to drip feed profit from player sales and
(b) collect a dividend from the loan they made to the club and
(c) don't realize player investment may actually help them move forward ?
Adkins is playing his cards right i.m.o.
A waiting game. What does he have to lose? The Allams find a new manager in the next couple of months. Nige is now available unencumbered with a contract.
If he ends up with a 1-year contract with HCAFC and things go tits-up, it will not be viewed by future employees as his fault as ownership didn't support him with a progressive recruitment budget & snookered him by selling key playing assets. Should another club come in for him during that first year, what does he have to lose dumping City ? Very little as he would not be viewed as a mercenary given the Allams' reputation.
Stick to your guns Nige.
How many of (guess) that small number would want to work for an ownership who :
(a) don't seem to have any ambition other than to drip feed profit from player sales and
(b) collect a dividend from the loan they made to the club and
(c) don't realize player investment may actually help them move forward ?
Adkins is playing his cards right i.m.o.
A waiting game. What does he have to lose? The Allams find a new manager in the next couple of months. Nige is now available unencumbered with a contract.
If he ends up with a 1-year contract with HCAFC and things go tits-up, it will not be viewed by future employees as his fault as ownership didn't support him with a progressive recruitment budget & snookered him by selling key playing assets. Should another club come in for him during that first year, what does he have to lose dumping City ? Very little as he would not be viewed as a mercenary given the Allams' reputation.
Stick to your guns Nige.
're. b). Gift, not loan.
He clearly said it was a gift. And he never goes back on his word. Never. He clearly said that too.
Oh aye, forgot to mention.
Just like all of us supporters (most anyway), Nige is probably hoping a change of ownership will happen sometime soon, say in the next year. Fair chance he would be viewed as a decent candidate to take on the manager role by the new owners. Another plus for Nige to play a canny game here.
Yes.Well done.
But hasn't the process further demoralised the club and it's supporters, in the same draining way that the renegotiating of Adkins contract has?
Cost is so important to supporters, contract details so important to a manager.
Yet time after time after time, the owners make a complete mess of it.
Don't they?
The recruiting and retention of the manager should be the most important job in the club. Absolutely bob on. So why change or make it non straight forward, for one that is currently working well against all the odds.
For the sixth time of asking we have a summer of upheaval..
Pearson. Barmby. Bruce. Phelan eventually. Silva. Slutsky.
All of them appear to have rejected the owners abrasive form of negotiation. All of them have a vision how they want the club to move forward, but are stymied by the owners.
Silva's parting words were the club needs to do its business early for the next season. Who has listened to that? Certainly not the owners, because here we go again. Last minute panic buying.The owners are presiding over a farce of their making.
There will be a long list of chancers, desperados and no hopers in the queue to be next Hull City manager, and the quality of manager diminishes further.
A **** up of the Allams own making.
For the sixth time of asking we have a summer of upheaval..
Pearson. Barmby. Bruce. Phelan eventually. Silva. Slutsky.
All of them appear to have rejected the owners abrasive form of negotiation. All of them have a vision how they want the club to move forward, but are stymied by the owners.
Silva's parting words were the club needs to do its business early for the next season. Who has listened to that? Certainly not the owners, because here we go again. Last minute panic buying.The owners are presiding over a farce of their making.
There will be a long list of chancers, desperados and no hopers in the queue to be next Hull City manager, and the quality of manager diminishes further.
A **** up of the Allams own making.
Making a mess of it is their aim, so they're actually doing a very good job of it. We can't possibly put all of this **** down to incompetence. No, they know what they're doing and there'll be no let up until they get what they want.
They know they won't get anywhere near the money they'd like from a buyer, so they'll take option B. Ruin Hull City AFC.
For the sake of balance, Adam Pearson got through a fair few managers in a similar period of time as the current owners have. Each time he (or Wilkinson) supported the next manager. The major difference being that he wasn't a silly petulant obstinate twat that spat his dummy out because he couldn't get his own way over things.
He worked with people, built bridges, opened gates (ha ha) and created an atmosphere of 'can do' around the club which paid off. He did get his own way eventually but not with the nuclear fall out we have endured with these two.
The more they get peoples backs up, the more people will dig their heels in.
Nige himself said it needed sorting surprised it’s gone on this long. Although I think this might suit one party because its the perfect excuse not to recruit players
Nige needs to come out and say he’s going or staying now, today.
The club neeed to move quickly and get a new manager in.
We keep him or we move on.
Simple as
The club neeed to move quickly and get a new manager in.
We keep him or we move on.
Simple as
Exactly, they are always looking to push the blame onto someone else, usually the supporters, but in this case the manager.
You don't know that. No-one knows what contract Adkins has been offered. It has been on the table for weeks unsigned.
Chazz is spot on, Adkins should either sign it or bin it. This delay is not good for the club.
If you read the question I was answering, this was to say that this delay suited the Allam's, which I was agreeing with. It is certainly clear to me, that all these so call ballots, which the Allam's keep instigating, is purely to push the onus back on supporters. You voted for it, so you got what you wanted. If the ballot doesn't suit them then they just don't release the results, just make an excuse that not enough voted.
On your point about Adkin's I agree with you that he needs to accept it or bin it. But I say again, this suits the Allam's or they would have been pushing for an earlier conclusion, but they have said nothing.
If the Allams wanted to end it all they need to announce is that they have chosen not to extend Adkins contract and bring someone else in. End of story
So another week closer to pre season and we are well behind again. Every year and window the same. Why would Adkins resign. He and his team will be on pay til the end of the month and a bonus for completion of contract. The Allams off set this against the wages they save by having half a squad to pay. Pocket money from James and Macguire and they are quids in again. Pathetic greedy self centred management but utterly predictable.