NFL draft

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Dan‽;2712658 said:
Why is it a horrible idea?

Because it's just a silly idea - its going fine with 3/4 year contracts right now and thats the best way to do it, fans can become accustomed to players, players can be accustomed to clubs etc
 
Answering your question. If you don't understand I'm not saying it any mroe clearly.

I don't understand what you're saying because you're an idiot. You clearly know nothing about what you're talking about, so just stop. The draft isn't a reshuffle of every player in the league, you tool.

It really annoys me when people like you preach their opinions on something without knowing the slightest thing about it.
 
Dan‽;2712699 said:
I don't understand what you're saying because you're an idiot. You clearly know nothing about what you're talking about, so just stop. The draft isn't a reshuffle of every player in the league, you tool.

It really annoys me when people like you preach their opinions on something without knowing the slightest thing about it.

Shut up, a little misunderstanding? Wooo yeah i'm an idiot

Maybe tell me I misunderstood the idea rather than call me an idiot
 
Shut up, a little misunderstanding? Wooo yeah i'm an idiot

Maybe tell me I misunderstood the idea rather than call me an idiot

It's not a little misunderstanding, it's complete ignorance, you clearly knew nothing about the system at all yet you still felt the need to preach your opinions. And okay, I will tell you that you misunderstood it, I'll even go back in time to do it, and I'll do it with a different username, too:

As I understand it (I could be wrong), the draft only applies to newly 'graduated', so to speak, youngsters, so you wouldn't be able to choose someone else's best player. Once they're contracted to the team, they belong to that team.

So to apply this to 'soccer', it would be like having an independent academy league and the premier league teams would get to pick players from the pool of graduates every year. They have a similar draft system in the MLS in America, if you're interested in how it would apply to soccer, taking players from colleges, generally, like they do in gridiron.

It wouldn't really work in most countries though because, as Lff says, they don't have the well-developed college sports leagues they have in the states. We wouldn't have any incentive to develop our own youth players if they were just going to be drafted by some other team.

Dan‽;2712509 said:
Not academies, college players, completely unaffiliated with any team.
 
Dan‽;2712721 said:
It's not a little misunderstanding, it's complete ignorance, you clearly knew nothing about the system at all yet you still felt the need to preach your opinions. And okay, I will tell you that you misunderstood it, I'll even go back in time to do it, and I'll do it with a different username, too:

it's a misunderstanding, I gave my opinion based on (how i thought) it worked - I havent' had time to read the WHOLE thread

I'm not even going to respond to you again
 
it's a misunderstanding, I gave my opinion based on (how i thought) it worked - I havent' had time to read the WHOLE thread

I'm not even going to respond to you again

No it's not misunderstanding, it's assumptions, ignorance and arrogance. Really wish people would get the slightest bit of understanding before commenting rather than just making things up that suit their own agenda. The whole thread was 17 replies long before you commented.
 
Also, you don't draft players from other teams. You draft the kids coming out of the colleges.

Teams can also trade their draft picks.

EDIT; I only read the opening few posts before typing this.
 
Dan‽;2712699 said:
I don't understand what you're saying because you're an idiot. You clearly know nothing about what you're talking about, so just stop. The draft isn't a reshuffle of every player in the league, you tool.

It really annoys me when people like you preach their opinions on something without knowing the slightest thing about it.

Well said Dan.
 
There would be no pinching from academies. There would be no academies. All students would rightly have to go through university and then enter the draft from which they would be picked. This is a much better system as generally all come out with college degrees at 22 before going into the sport. This also gives them 2/3/4 seasons of game time at a competitive level to learn their trade before making the step up. There would be some elitism at the university level with the best kids going to the best sporting universities, however to get into these universities they would still have to pass all of their A-levels, probably with all C's. The current model we use is way behind the American Collegiate system. Why do you think all the best athletes (footballers excluded) go out there to study? Golfers, Tennis players, Track and Field...
 
I strong appose the draft system. I would struggle to enjoy any success of my team as in the back of my mind would always know all these players are going to be taken by everyone else before next season...

As already pointed out the draft system only applies to the young kids (out of college in the US) and withhout a professional contract, once picked in the draft they then are contracted top the team that pick them and the system proceeds much as it does here. (although I dont think there are the same levels of transfers as we see here)

It could in theory work with our clubs academies systems with perhaps some compensatory payment to the original club, and /or giving each club 1st pick of its own academy before all the others go in the pool.

It does ensure that the balance of power in the NFL does swing and switch reguarly with no one club finding it easy to gain long term dominance.
 
Because it's just a silly idea - its going fine with 3/4 year contracts right now and thats the best way to do it, fans can become accustomed to players, players can be accustomed to clubs etc

How can you say it's going fine when clubs are now going out of business left, right and centre because of overpaying players? Player power is rife in today's game because the players are payed huge amounts, many times more than even the manager. Even Sir Alex has been bossed about by Rooney within the past couple of years over a new contract. Sir Alex Ferguson, possibly one of the best managers of all time being bossed about by a primadonna. How is that fine? There's only one manager in the Premiership who is payed more than his players are (everyone try and hazard a guess as to who this manager is, it may surprise you).

Do we hear about player power in America? Do we hear about teams going out of business every year? No, we don't, because while it may be more of a spectacle than a sport, it certainly keeps the clubs in existence, and subsequently player's pay packets are not outside of the team's means. And I have certainly never seen or heard of any player uprisings against coaches over in the NFL (correct me if I'm wrong), because the players know their place.

There would be no pinching from academies. There would be no academies. All students would rightly have to go through university and then enter the draft from which they would be picked. This is a much better system as generally all come out with college degrees at 22 before going into the sport. This also gives them 2/3/4 seasons of game time at a competitive level to learn their trade before making the step up. There would be some elitism at the university level with the best kids going to the best sporting universities, however to get into these universities they would still have to pass all of their A-levels, probably with all C's. The current model we use is way behind the American Collegiate system. Why do you think all the best athletes (footballers excluded) go out there to study? Golfers, Tennis players, Track and Field...

For the best sporting Universities in the country, even 3 C's is nowhere near enough. I'm at Loughborough Uni myself, and although I don't study Sports Science personally, I do know a lot of people on the Sports Science course. Their miniumum requirements were at least AAB at A Level, and even that might not have been enough for some people.
 
They don't get good qualifications though, what you get is colleges going out of their way to ensure their players are able to stay in college just so they can play for the team, giving them easy courses and bending the rules so they scrape passes, and most of them never actually graduate with anything to show for it. Meanwhile other students are neglected. It's a horrible encroachment of sport and commercial interests into education in my opinion and I'm glad it doesn't happen here!

(though with fees increasing and ever more privatisation of the educational sector who knows what the future holds?)
 
They don't get good qualifications though, what you get is colleges going out of their way to ensure their players are able to stay in college just so they can play for the team, giving them easy courses and bending the rules so they scrape passes, and most of them never actually graduate with anything to show for it. It's a horrible encroachment of sport and commercial interests into education in my opinion and I'm glad it doesn't happen here!

(though with fees increasing and ever more privatisation of the educational sector who knows what the future holds?)

Well, the stupid players do joke degrees - Ryan Fitzpatrick did Economics at Harvard so is pretty sharp!
 
New England Patriots and Tom Brady is who I follow <ok>

Only thing I don't like about NFL is the Franchise player contracts. Isit just me or do they all bitch and moan and not sign a contract until about a week before the season starts.
 
Well good for him, but let's face it, most of them are in the stupid category!

In some positions, in others most players are very clever. It's a game that requires a lot of brain power, the average NFL player is far more clever than the average football player. Not that there aren't some dunces, but you know what I mean.
 
¡Conman - "The Physio"!;2713130 said:
For the best sporting Universities in the country, even 3 C's is nowhere near enough. I'm at Loughborough Uni myself, and although I don't study Sports Science personally, I do know a lot of people on the Sports Science course. Their miniumum requirements were at least AAB at A Level, and even that might not have been enough for some people.

It's got nothing to do with studying sports.