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Presumably, as part of the response to Daniel Levy's scathing e-mail to Harringey Council and the GLA of a week ago or so, when asked about progress, the Council have said....
"We are committed to working in partnership with Spurs and the GLA to deliver the entire stadium project, including wider benefits of improved public realm and much-needed new housing.
"This scheme has always been central to our regeneration ambitions and we remain committed to working with our partners to ensure that it is a huge success for the residents of Tottenham and beyond."
I put this into Google translate from 'Governmental Double-speak' to English and the translation was.....
"Nothing to say....blah.....nothing happening...blah.....none of your business....blah"
The GLA refused to put up anyone to mouth platitudes which translates as...."Go **** yourself".
"We are committed to working in partnership with Spurs and the GLA to deliver the entire stadium project, including wider benefits of improved public realm and much-needed new housing.
"This scheme has always been central to our regeneration ambitions and we remain committed to working with our partners to ensure that it is a huge success for the residents of Tottenham and beyond."
I put this into Google translate from 'Governmental Double-speak' to English and the translation was.....
"Nothing to say....blah.....nothing happening...blah.....none of your business....blah"
The GLA refused to put up anyone to mouth platitudes which translates as...."Go **** yourself".
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...0-capacity-next-season-ahead-of-a3485366.html
90,000 for every league game would be quite a stretch, I think.
Cheap tickets might actually sell a lot, especially concerning season tickets, but then attendance becomes an issue.
West Ham have had that problem with the Olympic Elephant.
90,000 for every league game would be quite a stretch, I think.
Cheap tickets might actually sell a lot, especially concerning season tickets, but then attendance becomes an issue.
West Ham have had that problem with the Olympic Elephant.
PL : perhaps for top 6 clashes.
Beyond that, it might be better to keep it to the max capacity planned for new WHL.
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Sure that's not the HMRC Arena? He would have been in his element there, surrounded by Neanderthal Fascists. Would have felt right at home!!
Going back to companies having links with their military, Nissan surely defeats that clause: not only did they manufacture various vehicles for the Imperial army in WWII, mainly trucks and staff cars that were built in a plant set up in Manchuria, but they also built vehicles for the US army during the Korean War.
I think we should go for it for 3 reasons:
1. The atmosphere in a half full stadium will be awful. It was bad against CSKA compared to Monaco and Gent.
2. It's a massive opportunity to get new and particularly, young supporters into going to live football. It's cripplingly expensive for families but I saw loads in the European games this season. Look at WHL and it's mostly older geezers like me. They will want to see Harry and Dele. This is a big thing.
3. 'To dare is to do'. Whoever thought we'd sell out against Gent?
Let's go for it.
1. The atmosphere in a half full stadium will be awful. It was bad against CSKA compared to Monaco and Gent.
2. It's a massive opportunity to get new and particularly, young supporters into going to live football. It's cripplingly expensive for families but I saw loads in the European games this season. Look at WHL and it's mostly older geezers like me. They will want to see Harry and Dele. This is a big thing.
3. 'To dare is to do'. Whoever thought we'd sell out against Gent?
Let's go for it.
It will always be White Hart Lane to me. There is no way I could ever think of calling it anything else!
The retractable pitch is the grass one, which seems a bit odd but it's something to do with the sight lines for gridiron. The grass pitch will divide into 3 parts and then goes underneath the South Stand. Don't ask me how they do it or how they keep the grass from dying but apparently it should all be able to be done in a matter of a few hours. That is a few hours short of 15 days faster than The Spammers take to shift a few retractable seats off the running track at the Taxpayer's Arena.
I think the default will be that the grass is only moved when the NFL pitch is in use or events are being held and so it will usually be out in the open. It's that or the inside of the South Stand will resemble a large weed factory.
Wantonly stolen from Cartilage Free Captain:
Situated on top of the artificial turf, the sliding pitch structure allows three distinct features that benefit Tottenham. The first, as stated above, is that Spurs will always play on a pristine grass field. The second, deals with eliminating any distractions that could ensue in the build-up to an NFL game. The artificial field can be personalized, without interfering with the daily operations of Tottenham Hotspur, thus the transition to and from a full soccer stadium should be seamless. Lastly, the fact that the grass field lies on top of the NFL's field, allows for optimal viewing for both NFL and Spurs' supporters.
Underneath the grass field will be a synthetic grass surface that would be used for NFL games and other events. This innovative solution also allows greater flexibility in the scheduling of games, reducing the set up time required to prepare the ground for other events.
The seating bowl has also been designed to enable excellent sightlines to be achieved for the different formats of football and the NFL, without having to screen off rows of seats at the front of the lower tier, maintaining an excellent atmosphere for all sports and events.
Integrating the NFL to supplement Spurs' incredibly expensive stadium bill was always smart; to see that extra attention is being paid to ensure the integrity of Spurs' pitch is even more comforting. Yet the NFL's involvement might have another silver lining. Eighty percent of NFL fans in Europe are based outside of London and "American football" fans constitute forty-nine percent of the US population. These are huge figures, especially the latter numbers. With soccer growing in America at a healthy clip, it cannot hurt to have Tottenham Hotspur F.C. integrated into the American vernacular.
The turf soccer pitch sits in three trays which separate and then slide into a parked position below the south stand and southern podium. In order for this to be possible and for the artificial pitch, including run offs to be accommodated three rows at the front of the south stand are removed in NFL mode. This has been taken account of within the stadium capacity figures outlined elsewhere
The Spurs field is sent directly underneath the seats. There is also the deviation that Tottenham's field actually breaks down into three sections. The field will be broken down from endline to endline, creating a trifecta of long segments. As illustrated in the graph below, the pitch will initially stretch itself out into three divisions. The top or eastern part of the field will begin to move first, followed by the bottom or western section, culminating in the central portion making way for the south stand. While footballers tend to rip up grass surfaces less than their American counterparts, the mobility of the field, and the fact that its core will be divided, means that the moving pitch, theoretically, will be easier to manicure than a stationary one. That the field is tailored to break down, equates to a turf that can be replaced more easily and a pitch that will be groomed more often. In many ways, its a great situation for field optimization.
Situated on top of the artificial turf, the sliding pitch structure allows three distinct features that benefit Tottenham. The first, as stated above, is that Spurs will always play on a pristine grass field. The second, deals with eliminating any distractions that could ensue in the build-up to an NFL game. The artificial field can be personalized, without interfering with the daily operations of Tottenham Hotspur, thus the transition to and from a full soccer stadium should be seamless. Lastly, the fact that the grass field lies on top of the NFL's field, allows for optimal viewing for both NFL and Spurs' supporters.
Underneath the grass field will be a synthetic grass surface that would be used for NFL games and other events. This innovative solution also allows greater flexibility in the scheduling of games, reducing the set up time required to prepare the ground for other events.
The seating bowl has also been designed to enable excellent sightlines to be achieved for the different formats of football and the NFL, without having to screen off rows of seats at the front of the lower tier, maintaining an excellent atmosphere for all sports and events.
Integrating the NFL to supplement Spurs' incredibly expensive stadium bill was always smart; to see that extra attention is being paid to ensure the integrity of Spurs' pitch is even more comforting. Yet the NFL's involvement might have another silver lining. Eighty percent of NFL fans in Europe are based outside of London and "American football" fans constitute forty-nine percent of the US population. These are huge figures, especially the latter numbers. With soccer growing in America at a healthy clip, it cannot hurt to have Tottenham Hotspur F.C. integrated into the American vernacular.
The turf soccer pitch sits in three trays which separate and then slide into a parked position below the south stand and southern podium. In order for this to be possible and for the artificial pitch, including run offs to be accommodated three rows at the front of the south stand are removed in NFL mode. This has been taken account of within the stadium capacity figures outlined elsewhere
The Spurs field is sent directly underneath the seats. There is also the deviation that Tottenham's field actually breaks down into three sections. The field will be broken down from endline to endline, creating a trifecta of long segments. As illustrated in the graph below, the pitch will initially stretch itself out into three divisions. The top or eastern part of the field will begin to move first, followed by the bottom or western section, culminating in the central portion making way for the south stand. While footballers tend to rip up grass surfaces less than their American counterparts, the mobility of the field, and the fact that its core will be divided, means that the moving pitch, theoretically, will be easier to manicure than a stationary one. That the field is tailored to break down, equates to a turf that can be replaced more easily and a pitch that will be groomed more often. In many ways, its a great situation for field optimization.
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From Tom Collomosse's column in The Standard
Tottenham’s bid to stage all home games in front of a full house at Wembley next season moved a step closer as local councillors were advised to grant a key planning application.
Wembley have asked for 22 extra full-capacity events to be permitted between August 1 this year and July 31, 2018, which would allow Spurs full use of the ground’s 90,000 places for every home fixture next term – if they make their one-season switch to the national stadium.
Now Brent Council officers have compiled a 44-page report in which they encourage Brent’s planning committee to give the initiative the green light – as long they determine that the move would bring sufficient benefit to the local community, and that Tottenham’s arrival would not cause excessive disruption.
The committee will decide on the proposal, made by Wembley National Stadium Limited, at a meeting on March 23.
A Brent official said: “Following extensive consultation with local residents and businesses, taking into account the merits of the application and comments and views from the consultation, Brent Council has published its recommendation to grant planning permission for the application by Wembley National Stadium Limited to temporarily increase the number of full capacity events.”
Though this is good news for Tottenham, the planning committee are not obliged to act on this recommendation. They can also reject it, add certain caveats, or defer their decision until later in the year. The latter option is unlikely but would hamper Spurs’ plans: the club believe they have until March 31 to inform the FA of their intentions regarding Wembley.
If it must be Wembley, then at least it looks like we've got a good chance of a full stadium next season. Going there to see it half full would just be bloody weird.
Tottenham’s bid to stage all home games in front of a full house at Wembley next season moved a step closer as local councillors were advised to grant a key planning application.
Wembley have asked for 22 extra full-capacity events to be permitted between August 1 this year and July 31, 2018, which would allow Spurs full use of the ground’s 90,000 places for every home fixture next term – if they make their one-season switch to the national stadium.
Now Brent Council officers have compiled a 44-page report in which they encourage Brent’s planning committee to give the initiative the green light – as long they determine that the move would bring sufficient benefit to the local community, and that Tottenham’s arrival would not cause excessive disruption.
The committee will decide on the proposal, made by Wembley National Stadium Limited, at a meeting on March 23.
A Brent official said: “Following extensive consultation with local residents and businesses, taking into account the merits of the application and comments and views from the consultation, Brent Council has published its recommendation to grant planning permission for the application by Wembley National Stadium Limited to temporarily increase the number of full capacity events.”
Though this is good news for Tottenham, the planning committee are not obliged to act on this recommendation. They can also reject it, add certain caveats, or defer their decision until later in the year. The latter option is unlikely but would hamper Spurs’ plans: the club believe they have until March 31 to inform the FA of their intentions regarding Wembley.
If it must be Wembley, then at least it looks like we've got a good chance of a full stadium next season. Going there to see it half full would just be bloody weird.
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Anyone else following the Brent Planning Committee Meeting on the potential grant of using Wembley at full capacity next season on football.london?
http://www.football.london/tottenham-hotspur-fc/news/spurs-discover-wembley-capacity-fate-12789338
No, didn't think so.
http://www.football.london/tottenham-hotspur-fc/news/spurs-discover-wembley-capacity-fate-12789338
No, didn't think so.
Donna Cullen:
“We had an exhaustive search of other venues around the UK. London was always our preferred option. Our new stadium will have 61k, it will be full at 61k. Wembley is 90k, at 50k it will be a half-empty stadium.”
My view. If it's half empty the atmosphere will be nil.
“We had an exhaustive search of other venues around the UK. London was always our preferred option. Our new stadium will have 61k, it will be full at 61k. Wembley is 90k, at 50k it will be a half-empty stadium.”
My view. If it's half empty the atmosphere will be nil.