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New Stadium Plans Take Another Twist

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by South Africa Road Block F, Sep 5, 2014.

  1. South Africa Road Block F

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    Call it off...we cannot do this.....
    Mr Mendes (of CarGiant) said the plans released by QPR last year sent shockwaves through the company, who have 700 employees, including Les Ferdinand’s aunt.
     
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    so who do we believe? tony saying this is definitely going ahead or cargiant saying it def won't?
     
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  4. Radek

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    My heart bleeds for them, many many more jobs will be created as a direct result of the stadium being built.
     
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  5. South Africa Road Block F

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    I'm hoping it's the former.
     
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  6. Tramore Ranger

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    It really is just claim and counter claim at the moment........although the Car Giant chap is right in one thing, there is no way the stadium will be built by 2018, we are probably looking closer to 10 years......
     
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  7. Chair Nob'll Fallout

    Chair Nob'll Fallout Well-Known Member

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    The club are obviously holding out for the Mayoral Development Corporation which comes into effect next year in the hope that it will impose a compulsory purchase order on the land. That would make the cost significantly less than if the club wanted to buy the land on the open market.

    It's a risky game though, and I hope that they're sure that they have the political support to do that. I'd hate to see us miss out on this golden opportunity for a new ground just so some multi millionaires can save a few more millions.
     
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    KooPeeArr Well-Known Member

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    Does Boris play FIFA? ;)
     
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    Chair Nob'll Fallout Well-Known Member

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    Haha! I doubt it, doesn't look like a guy who's completely in tune with modern technology to me. Either way though he's packing in the mayor job next year to stand as an MP. Tony needs to get some lunch meetings in (and maybe a quick game of FIFA) with as many candidates standing to be the new mayor ASAP.
     
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    We are not even close to securing the site so why didn't the club just keep quiet about it? They're a just raising awarness of the sites availability and pushing the price up with the current owners.
     
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    What happened to the much vaunted new training ground? Someone's bullshitting big time.
     
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    What is better for London? A big chunk of redevelopment to keep the West up with East London development with lots of new housing, jobs, general infrastructure and improvement? Or a used car emporium that makes one man wealthier? Apparently Boris missed his target of new housing so I would guess that would take priority.
     
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    But that's exactly the problem. Car Giant have no intention of remaining on the site in the long term, but financially it's far better for them to sell up to potential suitors intent on a purely residential redevelopment, rather than one which includes a large stadium. It's a simple matter of getting offered more money per square metre for their land.

    Personally I am hoping that if push came to shove the QPR shareholders would be prepared to outbid any purely residential developers. They're playing a very risky game here by playing hardball.
     
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    Yes a pure Resi scheme would be hard to get through planning due to loss of employment/change of use etc. I suspect they wouldn't spent that much on a planning application without some advice though.
     
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    So basically everyone wants to panic buy the land? Seems about right.

    This is all part of the negotiations, the club will get a fair price when it is said and done.
     
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  16. Kilburn

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    Some insight on this from Dec 13, 2013

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-25375052

    In the video you get an appreciation of how large an area Wormwood Scrubs actually is - is it a designated park? do people frequent the area - it looks like a wasteland? why is it so far undeveloped? could we build a new stadium there?
     
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  17. Quality Passing Rules

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    I think you'll find it's M.O.D land and they want to keep it. Been stopped a few times over there as a kid by M.O.D police.
     
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    Here's more on the Scrubs:-

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormwood_Scrubs

    Wormwood Scrubs, known locally as The Scrubs, or simply just "Scrubs", is an open space located in the north-eastern corner of the London Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham in west London. It is the largest open space in the Borough, at 80 ha (200 acres), and one of the largest areas of common land in London. The eastern part, known as Little Wormwood Scrubs, is cut off by Scrubs Lane and the West London Line railway. It has been an open public space since the Wormwood Scrubs Act of 1879.

    The southern edge of the Scrubs is the site of two locally important buildings. At the western end is HM Prison Wormwood Scrubs, built between 1875 and 1891 by convict labour. To the east of the prison is the Hammersmith Hospital campus, which includes the relocated Queen Charlotte's and Chelsea Hospital.

    Within the area are several sports facilities, including the Linford Christie stadium, tens of football pitches and a pony centre. Queens Park Rangers Football Club played on The Scrubs between 1893 and 1896.

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    Looking east from the south-western edge of the Scrubs
     
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  19. Quality Passing Rules

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    Very interesting Kilburn. Thanks. It still has military connections to this day, cos 'the kings troop- royal horse artillery' still train there. That would also explain the M.O.D police as well.
     
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  20. Kilburn

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    From Oct 2013 - dog walkers

    Friends of Wormwood Scrubs say no to HS2 homes development

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    Friends of Wormwood Scrubs fight to save park from development

    Mayor of London plans to transform Old Oak Common around an HS2 hub could encroach on the Shepherd's Bush park

    http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/news/local-news/friends-wormwood-scrubs-say-no-6229610

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    Military area in Wormwood Scrubs Park in London, Spring 2013

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    Jumping from a balloon cage onto Wormwood Scrubs

    Perhaps we could offer up SWP to MOD for this purpose?
     
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