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Erik said:
He did a reasonable job at Derby under the circumstances, but he's already become a bit of a laughing stock in managerial/coaching terms. Would players respect him for the great player he was more than the poor manager he's been? Hard to say, really
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It's based on one job, Birmingham, where he was hamstrung with players being annoyed the previous manager was sacked. He couldn't win them over.
As a coach I've been told he is very good. I'd watch with interest his next job to see if he can turn his management career around.

Clubs taking to him will be looking at his abilities and reputation amongst players as a coach. Not a few Birmingham fans who know nothing about what went on at the club. It's funny the same abuse isn't given to big Tony or Rowett who also achieved the square root of F all.
 
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Jim the Tiger said:
It's based on one job, Birmingham, where he was hamstrung with players being annoyed the previous manager was sacked. He couldn't win them over.
As a coach I've been told he is very good. I'd watch with interest his next job to see if he can turn his management career around.

Clubs taking to him will be looking at his abilities and reputation amongst players as a coach. Not a few Birmingham fans who know nothing about what went on at the club. It's funny the same abuse isn't given to big Tony or Rowett who also achieved the square root of F all.
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It's not based on one job. He was crap at DC United too. No one can say whether it was him or Rosenior who galvanised Derby when they stayed up, but the evidence would suggest the latter.

Mowbray turned them around in the short time he was there (3W 1D 2L) before having to step aside with illness. Really poor comment.
 
Jim the Tiger said:
Clubs taking to him will be looking at his abilities and reputation amongst players as a coach. Not a few Birmingham fans who know nothing about what went on at the club. It's funny the same abuse isn't given to big Tony or Rowett who also achieved the square root of F all.
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Another one of your expert postings. Their managers this season, and their total matches and win rates:
John Eustace 45.5%
Wayne Rooney 13.3%
Tony Mowbray 50.0%
Gary Rowett 37.5%
I'm not an expert on coaching, is Rooney's record pretty much the same as the others?
 
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Nikica Jellyfish said:
Tbf Bayern wanting Kompany is absolutely mental cant get my head around that one at all
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He got 24 points in the prem
Thats embarrassing
And below luton

And burnley spent a lot

We never even had any where close to such a bad points haul in the prem
Even with our 5 player 2016 summer

Bayern are top 3 biggest club in world
Its bonkers
 
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SydneyTiger14 said:
It's not based on one job. He was crap at DC United too. No one can say whether it was him or Rosenior who galvanised Derby when they stayed up, but the evidence would suggest the latter.

Mowbray turned them around in the short time he was there (3W 1D 2L) before having to step aside with illness. Really poor comment.
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Oh good then it’s all down to Andy Dawson how ace we were last season
Glad we are keeping him
 
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originallambrettaman said:
Kieran McKenna's representatives remain in talks with Chelsea and Brighton, with the Ipswich manager thought to prefer a move to Stamford Bridge at this stage. McKenna is also on Manchester United's shortlist to replace Erik ten Hag if he leaves.

Popular fella.
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Am I right in thinking he’s had a couple of seasons in League 1 and one season in The Chump as a gaffer?

He surely needs to cut his teeth and get some experience in the PL before even thinking about Man Utd or Chelsea?

Even if he stays with The Tractor’s and they finish second from bottom with 5 wins all season it’s not the end of the world. Bayern Munich will be looking for a new manager by then and he’d fit the bill.
 
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Carmine Galante. said:
Am I right in thinking he’s had a couple of seasons in League 1 and one season in The Chump as a gaffer?

He surely needs to cut his teeth and get some experience in the PL before even thinking about Man Utd or Chelsea?

Even if he stays with The Tractor’s and they finish second from bottom with 5 wins all season it’s not the end of the world. Bayern Munich will be looking for a new manager by then and he’d fit the bill.
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He was a coach at United prior to going to Ipswich though so there's a case to be made that he knows how to manage or coach those sorts of players.
 
SydneyTiger14 said:
He was a coach at United prior to going to Ipswich though so there's a case to be made that he knows how to manage or coach those sorts of players.
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I saw a compilation of Tweets from some Man Utd news account a few years ago which basically said a lot of senior players don’t like McKenna’s training methods or sessions lmao. Don’t know how true it is but wouldn’t put it past them. One of the most toxic and snide dressing rooms in the country. Apparently, they used to call Rangnick ‘specs’ behind his back. Just a bunch overpaid and overrated divas and ****ers at Man Utd.
 
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Jim the Tiger said:
It's based on one job, Birmingham, where he was hamstrung with players being annoyed the previous manager was sacked. He couldn't win them over.
As a coach I've been told he is very good. I'd watch with interest his next job to see if he can turn his management career around.

Clubs taking to him will be looking at his abilities and reputation amongst players as a coach. Not a few Birmingham fans who know nothing about what went on at the club. It's funny the same abuse isn't given to big Tony or Rowett who also achieved the square root of F all.
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I do think there's a valid point in here. I think Rooney has always been a popular joke figure even before he was a manager. When he got the Birmingham job he was mocked because it seemed a strange decision, perhaps fair enough. But then I think that pre-conceived notion of him being a joke who shouldn't be in the job didn't help him. People point to them being in the playoffs but it was after a handful of games, they were never going to be a playoff-chasing side really. It obviously didn't go well in the short time he got but I think it's unfair to judge anyone on such a short period. I think there's a good chance that he'd have kept them up and then might have been able to build them into something more over time like LR did with us.
 
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PLT said:
I do think there's a valid point in here. I think Rooney has always been a popular joke figure even before he was a manager. When he got the Birmingham job he was mocked because it seemed a strange decision, perhaps fair enough. But then I think that pre-conceived notion of him being a joke who shouldn't be in the job didn't help him. People point to them being in the playoffs but it was after a handful of games, they were never going to be a playoff-chasing side really. It obviously didn't go well in the short time he got but I think it's unfair to judge anyone on such a short period. I think there's a good chance that he'd have kept them up and then might have been able to build them into something more over time like LR did with us.
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I think there's a healthy dose of hindsight bias in this. While there was criticism at the time it was mainly around sacking a popular manager in Eustace who had them in the play offs, and the style of play they claimed to be wanting not aligning to Rooney's time at Derby or DC, rather than any inherent skepticism of Rooney as a manager. I think most were willing to see how it went but after a handful of games it was clear it was an unmitigated disaster.
 
Carmine Galante. said:
Nah, I’m not having that.

Being part of a big coaching team and being the main man are like chalk and cheese.
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Don’t know why he’d touch the Man Utd job. It would ruin his legacy with Ipswich and he’d follow the same route as Moyes, van Gaal, Mourinho, Solskjær, Rangnick and ten Hag by being undermined by a squad of disrespectful and petulant ****s. It’s a poisoned chalice.
 
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I don't think the Kompany appointment is that surprising. He absolutely dominated the championship with Burnley, he managed to turn them from a team that where viewed us dull in to the team playing the best football in the league very quickly. It was always going to be a tough ask playing that way in the prem when most teams have better players but I don't think it's a stretch to think that with some of the best players in the world he can get them playing his style and have success in the way he did in the Championship.
 
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