New Manager
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Surely anything with a 'Hull Live' moniker attached to it, should come with a big fat arse warning sign . Just saying like..
This is that thing again people always say will happen, and it never ever actually does.
New signings, new managers, other big announcements. They're announced when they're ready. They never wait for a big dramatic time to do it, but people are always speculating that they will do.
I think it is some sort of deal, and we'd be daft to dismiss it altogether.
Whether you loved or hated LR, you have to accept that there is a time cost to changing manager, things do have to slow down a bit and as a result, we will be slightly further behind in our recruitment than we could've been, as well as these decisions on existing players.
If we find ourselves starting pre-season with none of the new signings here, then we have to accept that changing manager didn't help with that. Maybe some people think it's worth it to get rid of Rosenior, but I don't think you can pretend there's no downside.
He's been a showman for the last several windows, in each of which people have speculated that the signings will be announced on the pitch before a game. Never happens.
I love Acun and will always be grateful for how he took us out of the Allam years and almost immediately into this period of big crowds and ambition.
But I do think there are some obvious red flags to keep an eye on from a football point of view. Sacking a manager supposedly for entertainment reasons is a big one to me. Seemingly interfering to some extent with recruitment and then how those signings are used or not used, is another one.
It never applied.
To a degree it does and it doesn't. He absolutely has the right to make the decisions he sees fit as owner and principal benefactor. But if he wants to continue with the fans on board then it absolutely needs to be a symbiotic relationship between the club and it's supporters.
We've seen what happens when that relationship breaks down and it rarely leads to long term success or ends well.
For those who didn't object to the name change it did, the same ones who said the Allams saved city from going under.
From what I see from the outside looking in, Acun is a fan foremost and an owner secondly, he wants to see entertaining football as do we all, the difference is, he is in a position to dictate which direction we go by standing up and putting his hand in his pocket. I am still not convinced that given his English isn't bad, he still struggles to put across his point .. there were obvs things he and Tan didn't like about Rosies style of play, which I think to some degree, we'd all probably agree, I repeat I know nothing of Tim Walters pedigree other then what's written on here, he's either a master tactician with an eye for offensive football, or a raving lunatic hell bent on scoring goals but with little regard to what's coming the other way, dependent on who ya read or listen to. TWT as to whether this will prove to be a good decision or not, but by the sound of it, it's gonna be a hellova ride.
The Allams did save the club from going under, or at least going into administration. That doesn't excuse what followed nor did it give them carte blanche to just rip the name off the club and give it a new one.
It went sour when they had their strop with Hull City Council, and they wanted to remove the 'City' from the name, because they couldn't get their own way over the stadium. Prior to that, they were or pappa Allam was all we hoped for, sadly it nosedive from there, then daft lad junior took the reigns and dear jesus just ramped up the hatred towards them.
I doubt anyone is pretending changing manager can't create challenges potentially putting us a bit behind. We were simply talking about the retained list and how that will have been under consideration by the wider gang for quite a while already (weeks if not months).
Jumping then to "starting the preseason with no new signings is a big leap from what was being discussed and won't happen anyway (do is a tad silly)....we're no longer owned by the Allams!
Would you be okay with him relocating the club like when Wimbledon become MK Dons? He can do what he wants, right?
There were people at the time who said exactly "it's his club he can do what he wants" (later that turned out to be as long as it was OK with the FA) some of the same people are now saying the owner shouldn't be changing the manager when we did do well (in their opinion)
I don't believe Acun has said those things in the way you've written them. And I also don't think he sees the club as his "play thing". He 100% gets what being a fan is and means, he's passionate for the club to succeed, etc etc. I think such accusations are very disrespectful towards him. If we start lobbing accusations like that then we deserve Enob back.