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SW3 Chelsea Tiger said:
erm isn’t that the same thing???
What’s the difference? Same thing different title isn’t it??
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Data Analysis looks at things like player positioning, how the game is developing and how to counter it/encourage it based on what the analyst can see in the data.

Sport science looks at things like player fitness, performance and recovery. I’m not sure how useful that is in game, most people can spot when a player is knackered.
 
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Steven Toast said:
Data Analysis looks at things like player positioning, how the game is developing and how to counter it/encourage it based on what the analyst can see in the data.

Sport science looks at things like player fitness, performance and recovery. I’m not sure how useful that is in game, most people can spot when a player is knackered.
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It’s maximising it too though, gym work etc.
 
SW3 Chelsea Tiger said:
erm isn’t that the same thing???
What’s the difference? Same thing different title isn’t it??
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In a sense, in the sense that they’ll both use numbers to do their job. Pardo will be more focused on helping players reach their physical peaks, Warner is more on their technical/tactical peaks if you get me.

Both of them will make reports for their squad after games based on different elements of performance. Pardo will just have a more hands on approach in the gym to help the lads improve, Warner will have a more hands on approach with Ros in helping him
 
Steven Toast said:
Beri Pardo is staying on as part of Liam Rosenior's team.
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thats what I undestood but there is no mention of him in the aritcle which given his supposed role is a glaring omission.

On a side note the article was very informative and indicates that City are now putting signnificant effort into the data ananlysis side of the game compared to previous regimes?
 
WSTiger said:
thats what I undestood but there is no mention of him in the aritcle which given his supposed role is a glaring omission.

On a side note the article was very informative and indicates that City are now putting significant effort into the data analysis side of the game compared to previous regimes?
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All clubs are now focusing more on data, we're a bit late to the game in that regard. We've had data analysts for a good while, but nothing of this level and the best clubs in the world all have proper analytics teams that pick everything apart. Basically, it allows for much more detail in performances and tactics, something which prior to the advent of data was pressed onto the manager to do.

The data streams in live (from those bra looking things the players wear) during games/training and decisions can be made on the spot.

As far as Beri is concerned, he's part of the tactical data team that works during the matches. Ben is here to lead the entire thing, I thought he was here just for fitness but it seems that he's tying it all together for Rosie to look at.
 
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Steven Toast said:
That's a different universe to under Arveladze.
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It helps a lot when you have players like Docherty, Seri, Christie fit. Pelkas was also unfit for quite a while and has only got up to speed recently, same with Sinik. Considering all the injuries the early season form beat bad luck rather than was luck.

Unfortunately as the recent games showed we are still giving it away at the back. Hopefully things can eventually come good there, but I'm not automatically biased for Rosenior as some are. Most likely we need some astute incomings in January.
 
armchairfan said:
It helps a lot when you have players like Docherty, Seri, Christie fit. Pelkas was also unfit for quite a while and has only got up to speed recently, same with Sinik. Considering all the injuries the early season form beat bad luck rather than was luck.

Unfortunately as the recent games showed we are still giving it away at the back. Hopefully things can eventually come good there, but I'm not automatically biased for Rosenior as some are. Most likely we need some astute incomings in January.
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As it sounds like we're only making 1-2 loan signings, that might not be the case.

Hopefully that's the baseline, and then if any players go out, we'd look to bring in other replacements.
 
Get the midfield balace right.

We have class In there and we have graft in there but we need a bit of grit. Or full on filth, perhaps.
 
It surprises me that there isn't much more of an emphasis on sports psychology for players.
 
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Gone For A Walk said:
I expect they will be getting plenty of 'sports psychology' under Rosie, both direct from the coaching team and from elsewhere. You could hear elements of it from even that short clip.
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I have no doubt they get elements of it, I was more meaning dedicated specialist(s) as they have for other aspects of the game.
 
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DMD said:
I have no doubt they get elements of it, I was more meaning dedicated specialist(s) as they have for other aspects of the game.
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Keith Earle is the academy psychologist and deals with concerns the youngsters have about things like mentality, progression, going on loan, contract renewals etc.
We read a lot about players being “gutted” to be released, but many of ours that leave don’t join league clubs, they drop right down to the depths of the pyramid. Ellis Barkworth, who was released in 2018, joined Tadcaster and made 50 appearances, then got released and joined Scarborough, then got released and now works as a hairdresser.

Psychologically, to be working towards one thing and to face something as final as not making it because you aren’t good enough is very difficult for young people to handle. So Christ knows how difficult it is as an adult when you’re in the first team and told you’re off and no longer wanted. More support needed there I think.
 
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Steven Toast said:
Psychologically, to be working towards one thing and to face something as final as not making it because you aren’t good enough is very difficult for young people to handle. So Christ knows how difficult it is as an adult when you’re in the first team and told you’re off and no longer wanted. More support needed there I think.
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We used to have personal development reviews (PDR's) every year at University and I know they are used in other areas (and called different things with different acronyms). I would have thought they were used in football but I could be wrong.
 
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Steven Toast said:
That's a different universe to under Arveladze.
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From what I understand Shota didn't coach much. he left it to Peter and Daws. Liam is very hands-on, and I am really impressed with his attention to detail. Very interesting that he said you just play and train how I tell you to, if you do something wrong don't worry tomorrow I will tell you where you went wrong and put to right. Clearly, this new analyst goes through the training session carefully with Liam and highlights what needs to be put right and what is going we. I guess now we know why he was keen to have him onboard.
 
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