New Manager

Interesting to see that reports say that Wenger has said he's not looking for other jobs (in light of Barca's manager stepping down at the end of the season).
This makes it extremely likely that he's going to sign that contract extension many of you are dreading.

Granted I'm a MUFC fan, but I found the following short article pretty interesting, don't know if any of you have seen it in the Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...e-a-coward-in-real-madrid-row-says-mesut-ozil

It's fair to say Ozil no doubt receives the total opposite treatment from his current manager than under Mourinho.
I know a lot of the discussion on here has been around hopefully getting a manager like Simeone in who has passion and drives his players.

I just wonder exactly how much that might upset the apple cart if players are used to being let off easy by Wenger regarding their poor performances (we assume).
If it's just one or two players then it won't cause waves, but if most of your squad are used to being treated with kid gloves then a disciplinarian coming in could cause a pretty big problem, he would have to be a really big name they all respect.

It is an interesting read, but isn't this indicative of a lot of modern players? Leicester being the prime example, when they beat Liverpool in good fashion, after weeks of under performing with Ranieri. But then again, i can site Liverpool too in that game, playing really well, being on form and coming back from a nice break, yet produced some of the sh1itest football performances of the season. Premier league players get paid too much. Every single one of them are millionaires!
 
Sounds like Ozil needs someone to keep him on his toes.
Must be extremely frustrating for Arsenal fans.
When he is on point, there are few better. But he has this silly tendency to slip into complacency and give no effort in certain games, he just disappears.
Wenger's management style does not seem to compliment this player.
 
Sounds like Ozil needs someone to keep him on his toes.
Must be extremely frustrating for Arsenal fans.
When he is on point, there are few better. But he has this silly tendency to slip into complacency and give no effort in certain games, he just disappears.
Wenger's management style does not seem to compliment this player.

I just think that is Mesut Ozil. He's a class act in a creative sense, but the last player you want on the pitch when your team has to dig in and fight. I'm not sure that there's much more Wenger can do other than what he already is. If a bully like Mourinho can't get any more out of Ozil, then I'm not sure Wenger will. Although Wenger has admitted that Ozil has the talent to offer more to Arsenal. It would be a shame if Ozil went through his career being a 75% player, because he could be one of the worlds best with a bit more fight.
 
I just think that is Mesut Ozil. He's a class act in a creative sense, but the last player you want on the pitch when your team has to dig in and fight. I'm not sure that there's much more Wenger can do other than what he already is. If a bully like Mourinho can't get any more out of Ozil, then I'm not sure Wenger will. Although Wenger has admitted that Ozil has the talent to offer more to Arsenal. It would be a shame if Ozil went through his career being a 75% player, because he could be one of the worlds best with a bit more fight.

But he did, Under Jose, Ozil was the best no 10 on the planet.
 
But he did, Under Jose, Ozil was the best no 10 on the planet.

He also played in a stellar Real team with nowhere near the competition he faces in the premier league. I think it shows that the PL is a tougher place to play than La Liga rather than Mourinho getting more out of him.
 
I just think that is Mesut Ozil. He's a class act in a creative sense, but the last player you want on the pitch when your team has to dig in and fight. I'm not sure that there's much more Wenger can do other than what he already is. If a bully like Mourinho can't get any more out of Ozil, then I'm not sure Wenger will. Although Wenger has admitted that Ozil has the talent to offer more to Arsenal. It would be a shame if Ozil went through his career being a 75% player, because he could be one of the worlds best with a bit more fight.

Great player but is in the wrong team and more importantly league. I don't think we ever got the right balance in our squad and Ozil is the last player you bring in after you have the defensive balance and mentality right. In my opinion we haven't got either correct and it shows when the team deflates when the going gets tough. Ozil isn't the kind of player you want when you have deficiencies like we have and it's shown when Cazorla went out, or the limitations of Coqs, Ramsey and Xhaka.

He's a luxury player, but what a player he is.
 
just seeing the talk here of everyone accepting Wenger will sign an extension is so disheartening and saddens me so.

sigh, I think it will happen too, and I'll feel so crushed if it happens.
 
Not here to wum, but do you guys think he'll get the boot (the unilateral one, not the one where he puts the boot on and kicks himself) if you finish 5th?

I personally think he'll retire if you get top 4 plus the FA Cup again. Goes out on a relative high and with the foundations in place for his successor.
 
just seeing the talk here of everyone accepting Wenger will sign an extension is so disheartening and saddens me so.

sigh, I think it will happen too, and I'll feel so crushed if it happens.

Unfortunately that's reality mate and has been for a very long time. Only thing that would prompt the Management to act is if Wenger drops out of the top 4, two seasons running and that is not likely unless the opposition becomes more consistent. Liverpool is inconsistent and Spurs seem to find a way of imploding when you least expect it. Wenger has enough tactical know-how and resources available at the club to maintain top 4.
 
Not here to wum, but do you guys think he'll get the boot (the unilateral one, not the one where he puts the boot on and kicks himself) if you finish 5th?

I personally think he'll retire if you get top 4 plus the FA Cup again. Goes out on a relative high and with the foundations in place for his successor.

I don't think Wenger would ever be sacked. He would leave of his own accord. Top 4 is a minimum requirement, so if we finished outside the top 4 I think he would walk.

The only other reason Wenger will go is if we've lined up a replacement. Personally I'm not sure this is happening atm. I fully expect Wenger to be there next season.
 
I don't think Wenger would ever be sacked. He would leave of his own accord. Top 4 is a minimum requirement, so if we finished outside the top 4 I think he would walk.

The only other reason Wenger will go is if we've lined up a replacement. Personally I'm not sure this is happening atm. I fully expect Wenger to be there next season.
I hope so.

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